Echoes of the Past: Analyzing E-mini S&P Futures 2008 vs. 2024Introduction to E-mini S&P Futures
E-mini S&P Futures stand as a testament to the intricate dynamics of financial markets, capturing the essence of broader economic trends and investor sentiment. As we navigate through 2024, these futures face a situation reminiscent of the prelude to the 2008 global financial crisis. This article embarks on a journey to analyze the current market position of E-mini S&P Futures against the backdrop of October 2007, unraveling the echoes of the past through which we could have a glimpse into the potential trajectory for 2024.
Historical Parallels: 2007 vs. Today
In October 2007, E-mini S&P Futures approached the precipice of a significant market downturn, attempting to break the all-time high set in March 2000 in vain, marking the peak before the devastating 2008 crash. Fast forward to today, we find ourselves in a similar position, with the market challenging the all-time high set in January 2022. However, the context now is markedly different, with indicators and market fundamentals suggesting a more robust potential for upside than downside.
Technical Analysis of Current Market Position
A detailed technical analysis paints a vivid picture of the current market. Key resistance and support levels are scrutinized, with a particular focus on how they compare to those of 2007. Indicators such as RSI, and MACD are employed to dissect the market's momentum and volatility, offering insights into potential future movements.
Additionally, to ensure the analysis remains impartial, we're utilizing a 42-day regression channel on both prices and indicators. This sophisticated tool will discern whether there's a convergence of trends or, conversely, a divergence between price movements and indicator signals.
2007/2008 Presented a Strong Divergence
Prices and Indicator are Not Diverging in 2024
The October 2007 Echo
The situation in October 2007 serves as a stark reminder of the market's capacity for sudden and profound shifts. By analyzing the market patterns, investor behavior, and economic indicators from that period, we draw parallels and contrasts to the present day, providing a multi-dimensional view of the potential market trajectory.
Breakout Teaser in 07/08
In October 2007, the E-mini S&P Futures made a daring attempt to surge beyond the previous all-time high price levels. However, this potential breakout turned out to be a deceptive "fake-out," setting the stage for a significant downtrend that persisted until March 2009.
Consequently, as the potential breakout faltered and the E-mini S&P Futures prices began their descent, they encountered minimal resistance to the downward movement. This was primarily because there were no significant support levels in close proximity, leaving a considerable gap until the next substantial support zone was encountered at markedly lower price points.
Potential Opportunities Amidst the Bad News
Despite the ominous shadow of 2007, the current market scenario reveals opportunities. The bad news dominating headlines may indeed present favorable conditions for trading E-mini S&P Futures at more attractive prices. An objective analysis, free from the emotional weight of the past, reveals a market teeming with potential for informed traders.
Break-Out or Fake-Out this Time?
The above chart bears a striking resemblance to the scenario observed in October 2007. However, it's crucial to acknowledge the distinct differences in our current market conditions. In 2024, the convergence of the RSI and MACD with the price, as opposed to divergence, paints a notably different picture. Furthermore, as depicted in the chart below, the proximity of significant support price levels forms a robust barrier, challenging the development of a downtrend and underscoring the unique nature of the current market landscape.
Forward-Looking Insights
The analysis leads us to a series of forward-looking insights. A comparative historical approach, coupled with current technical analysis, suggests that while the market is at a critical juncture reminiscent of 2007, the outcome may not necessarily follow the same path. The article discusses potential market scenarios for E-mini S&P Futures, considering the interplay of economic reports, investor sentiment, and global events.
With this delicate balance, influenced by both past events and current market conditions, we present a comprehensive detailed trade plan which would benefit from such potential new all-time high prices being formed.
Trade plan elements for a Risk-Defined E-mini S&P Futures Opportunity:
Understanding the Instrument : E-mini S&P Futures is a futures contract with a point Value of $50 per point. Traders willing to reduce the risk of the trade can use MES (Micro ES) which would reduce the exposure by a factor of 10 times less.
Risk Management : Experienced traders prioritize risk management. Using stop-loss orders or hedging techniques is imperative to avoid undefined risk exposure.
Precision in Entries and Exits : Aligning entries and exits with relevant market price levels can help manage risk. When a price point generates a bounce, the trader stays in the trade; if a price level is violated, the disciplined action is to exit the trade promptly for a predetermined loss.
Relevant Price Levels for E-mini S&P Futures : Currently, ES1! shows relevant support levels starting 4662.50.
Proposed Trade Plan:
ENTRY: At a significant support level identified by the analysis: 4662.50.
STOP-LOSS: Set at a calculated risk level below the entry: 4481.25.
TAKE PROFIT TARGET: Aimed at an identified resistance level which in this case does not exist and therefore we are taking a Fibonacci projection: 5300.50.
This plan offers a structured approach with a clear Reward-To-Risk ratio, aiming to capitalize on potential market movements while ensuring disciplined risk management.
Navigating 2024 with Lessons from 2008
As traders look to navigate the uncertain waters of 2024, the lessons from 2008 become invaluable. The article provides a nuanced strategy framework that incorporates risk management, market timing, and scenario planning. It emphasizes the importance of vigilance, adaptability, and informed decision-making in capitalizing on potential market movements.
Conclusion
The echoes of 2008 reverberate through today's market, presenting a unique blend of challenges and opportunities for traders of E-mini S&P Futures. By analyzing the past and present, this article provides a comprehensive view of the potential market dynamics for 2024. It concludes with strategic insights and a potential opportunity for traders to leverage the lessons from the past while remaining agile and informed in the face of future uncertainties.
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Financialcrisis
Which currency pairs benefited from financial crisis 2007-2008The stock market has been rising in spite of the covid pandemic. Even before that, some well-known names were predicting a huge cruse with Peter Schiff republishing his same old book every year for some time now. Anyway, many of us agree, that there is something wrong with the markets and even more reputable managers predict a crash. It is, therefore, a good idea to look where the money tends to go should that happen.
Forex is a central point of the financial markets. Bonds, stocks, and commodities each is denominated in a currency. Buying the right asset from the right asset class is great. Buying it with the right currency is even greater ☺
One of the winners is clearly an American Dollar. I will leave it in all the following charts. After a long downtrend, the crisis put a halt to that and in 130 days, 860 days worth of losing the value was recovered. Of course, such rapid growth in currency value must have made exports difficult, so I assume there must have been some major intervention and the downtrend resumed after a beautiful double top.
(the chart below dollar is SP500 as another anchor for our analysis)
Then, there are two losers in this chart. It is important to mention two things. First, the charts present futures as the other indexes don't go as far. Second, a weak currency doesn't mean the country handled the crisis poorly. But as far as currencies go, AUD and EUR did perform rather poorly. // I think this is likely to be a repeated behavior. AUD is still a commodity currency and EUR pegs diverse economies to each other. This raises a question about stability as successful currencies require political and economical union too.
Oil currencies such as NOK or CAD seem to also have dropped. I added Oil chart at the bottom. // I do think that this is likely to repeat with NOK, but not necessarily with CAD. Although the CAD is another commodity currency, it is perceived as safer to some degree. At least as far as I know.
(could not find reliable NOK index)
When it comes to currencies generally perceived as safe, Yen performed nicely and has risen more than 25% measuring from the lowest low between 2008 to the nearest significant top. The pair USDJPY was sideways-ish before the years 2007-2008 but is clearly downward-slope as Yen somewhat outperforms US Dollar. The same can't be said about the Swiss Franc which has only woken up after the dollar started to reverse. You can point out several weekly candles when the investors were rushing from the dollar and buying CHF in exchange in these times. // I think a Yen will express similar behavior. I am not sure what to make of CHF which is backed by gold more than other currencies and the gold has already risen quite high.
I will leave it here without further interpretation, but I am looking forward to discussion if there is one, and I will make a few more similar posts in the future if this one becomes any popular.
Dow Jones 1930 Breakdown of the trend -81% Update after 25 yearsA similar situation is happening now. Then a breakthrough of the uptrend line, price fixing below the uptrend line and another -81.5% market fall. Previous highs were updated only after 25 years.
The situation on the Dow Jones now. A very similar schedule as in 1930. It is important how the price will react near the uptrend line, which will act as a support. If there is a breakdown of the uptrend line and the price consolidates below it, a very dangerous situation will arise like in 1930 and a complete collapse of the US economy. Let's hope this does not happen.
My former trading idea is an indicator. Published in April 2019.
Which gave a signal of a market reversal before its fall.
The relationship of the Dow Jones and the Fed% rate We are ahead of the financial crisis.
BITCOIN COULD REPLACE BANKSIn this video I show a key level of support for BTC. It coincides with a 3-day ATR trendline for the north. I'm not saying Bitcoin can't go south.
I deal with a far bigger issue, where in the heat of a financial crisis banks close. This has happened several times before (and Google is your friend on this point).
There is a lot of chatter out there from very reputable experts about a serious banking crisis approaching. Stop - I don't listen to sensationalist nonsense.
The 'big reset' is now a realistic probability for people in the know. I'm talking about people who understand the global financial system to the core. The reset will mean that not only stock markets meltdown but the money system globally is frozen. What are you gonna do when there is no money? Well, history has shown that people went back to bartering.
At the moment Bitcoin functions as a store of value - even if unstable. The banks can't lock down Bitcoin. When the banks freeze up people will exchange BTC value for goods and services. That's just common sense. Not everybody will have Gold to exchange and physical gold is not available to everybody. But BTC is available to everybody right now.
In the lead up to the banking crisis you will see BTC rocket north. How? Insiders always know and leak what's coming.
Get prepared. I'm not saying that 'you' should put all your money into BTC. I'm saying a reasonable store of BTC is a good back up plan if worse comes to the worst.
Disclaimers: This is not financial advice - even if so construed. It is opinion only. Your losses are your own. Sue yourself if you lose your money.
REPOCALYPSE NOW!This is serious. Find out what 'REPOCALYPSE' is about. Protect your positions very carefully.
Get real - I don't know when it's happening nor does anybody else.
REPOCALYPSE is not just doom-saying stuff, though it might appear sensationalist. This is reality mates.
Those who keep there heads in the sand and do not take protective actions will be flushed out.
DISCLAIMER: All statements here are over-simplifications of very complex issues, and are speculative opinion. This is not constructed as advice for making decisions about trading in securities. Your losses are your own.
Declaration : This post is consistent with Tradingview's house rules on text-based analyses.
SEISMIC: Solid Gold becomes easily electronically transferable. Yes - of course some will know about credit transfers of solid Gold. But the latest stuff is bigger! Some very clever people have found a way to transfer solid gold in more than just 'credit', by very robust electronic means. In other words wherever you are in the world you can ask for your solid gold and it will be sent to your hands! Ain't that crazy!? You can now buy stuff and pay in real Gold, using plastic! Ok so that part is like credit but it isn't. No longer is that totally linked to the US-Dollar value. So this is just like cryptocurrencies - but slightly better. In other words private individuals and some corporations are re-creating the 'Gold Standard' independently of governments and central banks.
What does that mean? It means that the 'big boys' with the smart money have been ahead of the race. They spotted some time ago, to their minds that the US financial situation - which has been labelled as bankrupt (not by me), with an unprecedented Debt to GDP ratio of 105.4, and a total debt of $16 Trillion - is frankly dangerous. People have become drunk on credit. Personal credit allowances are all adding up into one massive tsunami - which nobody is really looking at.(Well except the big boys of course).
Gold is has been connected to the US Dollar as we know it today. However, strangely currencies are no longer backed by Gold (since the 1970s). This has allowed the widespread printing of national currencies backed by thin air - and confidence in trade agreements etc. On top of all that, interest rates had been held near to zero in the USA for the last 10 years, and that's why there is such tension about The Federal Reserve (which is factually a bunch of private bankers), deciding to raise interest rates. They know a bubble has been created.
In other words, the crisis of 2008 was not solved at all. It was papered over and made worse. Yes - it's taking time to pop. Sometimes real bubbles made of soapy water will touch a surface several times and not pop. But when they pop and when Ponzi schemes crash, it happens in the blink of an eye. If/when the financial bubble pops Gold will rule again. But it will be too late for the average investor to get on board.
I'm not saying that everybody should rush out and buy Gold. What I'm saying is that sensible investors and traders need to get prepared now. In fact 'now' is a bit too late.