Bottom targets if moving downBased on the theory the market has topped, the following is what we should roughly see next. There is still a chance Cycle B is not completed and I will outline what that could look like later this week or next. A few of those theories have us in only Intermediate wave 3 of Primary wave C of Cycle wave B up with the next possible market top around 4631. However, Intermediate wave 4 would bottom no lower than 4387, which it did on June 20th. Another theory for a long and drawn up Supercycle wave 2 would put the market in Intermediate wave 2 up in the early stages of Primary wave A down. This would be the case if Supercycle wave 2 were to trickle downward for 5+ years. For now we will stick with the beginning of Cycle wave C down.
Position: Submillennial wave 1, Grand Supercycle 5, Supercycle 2, Cycle C, Primary A
Heading: Downward
Shorthand wave reference: 152CA.
Cycle was C will also end Supercycle wave 2 so we will forecast what wave 2 could do based on the completion of Supercycle wave 1 and the relational history of waves ending in 152. I have Supercycle wave 1 beginning in March 2009 and ending January 2022. This saw the market gain 4,151.83 points over 3,252 trading days for a rise over run of 1.277. Based on these figures and waves ending in 152, Supercycle wave 2 could retrace the total points at the following quartile levels (light blue lines in the chart below). The first quartile of all movement would be at 25.37%, the median movement of all historical data is 45.71%, while the third quartile of historical retracements is at 75.67%. Based on the same wave data, the most model agreement is in Supercycle wave 2 lasting 1,626 trading days. Second most model agreement is on 4,878 trading days, while third is a large tie at 469, 813, 929, 976, 1,084, and 1,158 trading days. Based on a broader dataset for waves ending in 52, the movement quartiles (yellow levels below) are 33.43%, 50.17%, & 68.96%. The models agree the most on a length of 1,626 trading days in length, second is 3,252, third is 813, fourth is 1,084, fifth is a tie at 542, 765, 929, & 1,445. A general point of reference for those dates is:
469: November 15, 2023
765: January 20, 2025
813: March 27, 2025
929: September 1, 2025
976: November 10, 2025
1084: April 6, 2026
1158: July 20, 2026
1626: May 8, 2028
4878: October 1, 2040
On very rare occasions, a macro wave 2 exceeds the length of the preceding wave 1. This would likely take anything over 3,252 days off the table. Macro second waves tend to retrace between 38.6%-57.43% of the prior wave 1’s movement. This would place the bottom between 2434.22-3216.01.
Here is the chart solely based on Supercycle wave 1’s data:
My initial forecast would place the market bottom around 2740 by mid-September 2024. All retracement levels are on the main chart with labels on the right side.
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Here are the stats using the data from completed Cycle wave A and possible completion of Cycle wave B:
Wave A lost 1,327.04 points over 195 trading days for a rise over run of 6.805. Wave B gained 956.89 points over 168 trading days for a rise over run of 5.696. This was 86.15% of the duration of wave A and a 72.11% retracement of wave A’s movement. Based on waves ending in 152C, Cycle wave C could extend the following quartile levels (light blue labels on left side of main chart) of Cycle wave A’s movement—93.53%, 126.25%, & 139.10%. Of note, the longest historical movement extension was only 149.86% of wave A’s movement. The models do not show strong agreement on any lengths, however, a grouping between 312-336 trading days was noted.
Based on a slightly broader set of data for waves ending in 52C, quartile levels (yellow lines) are 96.12%, 138.69%, & 144.22%. Once again, the maximum extension is 149.86%. The models agree on duration of 195, 224, and 336 trading days. There are zero levels of secondary model agreement, however, there is large grouping between 106-130 and other groupings at 162-168, 312-317, and 390-392.
Lastly, based on the broadest dataset is waves ending in 2C. The quartile levels (white lines) are 109.83%, 132.02%, & 154.44%. Strongest model agreement for duration is at 168 and 195 trading days, secondary agreement at 98 days, third at 224, 292, and 390.
The days for reference are:
98: November 6, 2023
112: November 27, 2023
168: February 16, 2024
195: March 27, 2024
224: May 8, 2024
292: August 15, 2024
312: Friday, September 13, 2024
336: October 17, 2024
390: January 3, 2025
These ranges introduce many possibilities. There is a downward trendline that had been providing resistance during Cycle wave A, that may provide resistance during the next downtrend. After reviewing all of the above data and finding intersection points with the trendline I am monitoring the following targets for now. If the bottom is November 27, 2023, the target may be around 3361. If the bottom is May 8, 2024, the target could be 2972.71. The targets thereafter are beyond the 149.86% threshold which has proven consistent thus far. A breach is always possible which would open the door to more targets of 2769 by August 15, 2024 and 2735 by September 13, 2024. The other targets lack intersection at this time.
These are the initial estimates moving forward and continuing under the assumption the market has indeed topped at 4448. I will later map out the 5 wave structure to these bottoms to see which ones line up with current movement and additionally identify where we could move if we break above 4448 within the next 15 trading days. The best confirmation right now of us being in Cycle wave C and the final downward slope would be a break below 4048.28 before a move above 4448.47. The first level broken will confirm the next step.
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MAJOR resistance test for the marketsAttempting to identify the end of Intermediate B has been waves of fun and plenty of misses. While there is no prescribed metrics on what the wave’s overall movement and duration should be, historical metrics have been quite reliable (most of the time). That has not been the case during this chase for Intermediate wave B. I have not given up and caved to the belief that the major uptrend has begun yet. We should still move down in an Intermediate wave C which will also close out Primary wave B (corrective downward wave).
Here is my Elliott wave outline of Primary wave B so far. Primary wave A ended with the peak in the first hour of trading on December 1, 2022 (light blue colored-encircled letter A). Primary wave B is comprised of 3 subwaves (Intermediate waves). Intermediate wave A (magenta letter A in parenthesis) ended with a low on December 22, 2022 and has yet to be broken. I currently have placed Intermediate wave B’s endpoint at the high from January 13, although this could still change in the next few trading days. My Elliott Wave, Wave 3 finder, identifies wave 3 and other reversal extremes such as the end of waves 2, 4, and B. This indicator is toward the bottom of my charts. The signals are a magenta background bar when entering a reversal that will see the equity move up soon and a lighter blue background color when the equity has topped and will revert to the downside. The Minor waves reside inside each Intermediate wave and are colored with yellow letters or numbers Minute waves are inside of each Minor wave and they are colored with light green alpha numerals. My wave 3 indicator mainly spots wave 3 of 3 which was the case midday on December 16 and early morning on January 9. This is why I am confident that Intermediate A was placed correctly, and we are still in Intermediate wave B for the moment.
We are finally approaching a major level of resistance which has held strong since January 2022. We have not had a daily bar that has closed above the thick red-dotted line. This will be tested within the next 3 days.
An alternative location if we break through the resistance and keep moving higher is that we are indeed in Primary wave C and should continue upward toward 4400-4600. If this path plays out, Primary wave B would have ended on December 22. Here is a chart of this alternative course and where we may be today:
I do not like this due to the pace of Cycle wave B. Cycle wave B began at the current market low from October. The original expectation was that it would ultimately trend upward until Summer 2023. If this alternative were true, the market top would probably occur within another month, maybe two at the most. While this is not impossible, and potentially practical, the historical relationships between the macro and minor waves do not support this outcome.
IF WE JUST ENDED INTERMEDIATE WAVE B:
The following projection will only be a rough estimate of where Intermediate C down inside of Primary B would take us IF Intermediate wave B indeed ended at the market high on Friday January 13, 2023.
Based on historical waves ending in 2BBC, potential wave durations based on data quartiles are 6, 11, 28, or 41 trading days. Movement extension in relation to Intermediate wave A’s movement are 127.13%, 130.095% and 133.06%. These percentages and levels have not changed since my analysis two weeks ago and are the light blue lines.
The only new difference based on waves ending in BBC are the potential wave durations as well. Most model agreement is with a duration of 10 & 28 days. There is a large tie for second most at 5-8, 11, 12, 14, 15, 19, 24, 31, & 41 days.
For waves ending in BC, most model agreement is at a length of 14 trading days. Second most is at 14 days, third most at 42 days. Fourth most ties at 7, 8, & 10 trading days. Fifth is 5, 19, 28, & 56 days.
Historically wave C can be equal to the length of waves A + B. Intermediate wave A was 15 days long and wave B for the moment is at 14 days. Based on all this data, 28 days may be around the maximum length for Intermediate wave C. This date February 24th. Another potential length is 11 days, which while less than both Intermediate waves A or B, it aligns with the next Fed meeting and rate hike. The only near-term catalysts for market decline occurring immediately would be earnings in which the season just began. The Fed will not meet for a few more weeks and that is too deep into the projected decline to be a cause of the decline. The Fed would most likely signal the bottom if they hold to the market’s current expectation of a 25 or 50 basis point hike.
Bottom line is we should decline at least one more time to retest the December lows before moving upward. The resistance test early this week will show us if that decline will occur.
I will conduct a market re-look after this week plays out.
Update on current top and next bottomFollowing up on last week. Analysis said the short-term top would be 4 days according to most models. Outside chance of 9 or 11 days too. We never convincingly went down yet. The current top would be B's 9th full trading day. This would mean the CPI report may not be positive for the market as applied to the last analysis. We still need a drop of some days. A longer B would make the final C down even longer than the first projection. I don't think we bottom before CPI. This also means we must break below the original end of wave A which was 3764. We could lose 200 points this week I have plotted the Minor waves (yellow letters) inside of Intermediate B as I see them in this moment, however Minor wave C looks short at one day long (if it is indeed over). Based on historical data for waves ending in BBC I plotted the quartile movement extensions for Minor wave C based on the data in Minor wave A. The median historical movement would put the top around 3903.038 and the third quartile would be 3909.768. The current top from January 6 is between those two levels. Additionally, the potential lengths have strong agreement at 4 days, second most is 2 & 3 days, third most is 5 days, and then 1 day.
The majority of models are pointing to another possible high early in the week, but based on the large movement from last Friday, Minor wave C and Intermediate B could be over.
Time to clarify Intermediate wave C and the end of Primary wave B. The original levels are all still valid. My narrow call for a bottom is between 3625-3675. The only new variable to consider is the length of Intermediate wave C.
Based on waves ending in 2BBC, Intermediate wave C could now last 6, 11, 18, or 26 days. Based on waves ending in BBC, the most models agree on a length of 6, 12, or 18 days. Second most is 5 days, and third most is 7-11 days long. Based on a broader dataset for waves ending in BC, most models agree on 5 and 15 days. Second ties at 12 and 18 days. Third is 4, 6 and 9 days. Fourth is 21 and 22 days. Next is 8, 10, 13, 14, 16, and 24 days.
My original projection from last month was a bottom around January 25 which is 12 trading days. January 19 would be 8 days, and January 17 is 6 days. Compared to the volatility we have been experiencing and have the CPI report likely to play some roll in the drop, 12 days seem too long. With 6-8 days found as a favorite in the models, I will plan for seven days long for now.
VERDICT: I am short in the short-term (to January 18), long in the medium-term (Summer 2023), and short in the longer-term (1st quarter 2025). For the bottom pending more data it is possibly around January 18 below 3650.
Bottom in sight; bull trap aheadThus far, Primary wave C is difficult to determine where the internal waves are located. We have either seen the end of Intermediate waves 1 and/or 3 or something else. The projection is for Primary wave C to last 37-46 days while it drops 863.93-1117.41 points. If this range is valid, where should each intermediate wave end? This analysis will determine potential identifiers for tracking the downward movement.
INTERMEDIATE WAVE 1
LENGTH
In general, Intermediate wave 1 typically contributes 11-30% of the larger wave’s length it resides in with a maximum contribution of 53%. This means wave 1 could last 4 to 14 days and up to 24 days at the most. Waves ending in C1 (Primary wave C, Intermediate wave 1) typically make up 11-34% with a maximum of 41%. This means wave 1 could last 4 to 16 days and no more than 21. Waves ending in 2C1 typically make up 11-33% with a maximum of 39.77%. This means wave 1 could last 4 to 15 days and no more than 18 days. Cumulatively, wave 1 could last 4 to 15 days and no more than 18.
MOVEMENT
Through similar considerations, wave 1 tends to contribute 33-59% of the larger wave’s overall movement with a maximum of 104%. This means wave 1 could drop 292.48 to 669.10 with a maximum drop of 1162.11. Waves ending in C1 typically move 26-66% of the larger wave with a maximum at 91%. This means wave 1 could drop 227.64 to 735.48 with a maximum of 1016.84. Lastly, waves ending in 2C1 move 31-77% with a continued maximum of 91%. This means wave 1 could drop 272.65 to 867.64. Using these ranges, Intermediate wave 1 could bottom between 3769.66-4409.66 with middle ground between 3968.2-4409.66.
INTERMEDIATE WAVE 2
LENGTH
In general, Intermediate wave 2 typically contributes 5-12% of the larger wave’s length it resides in with a maximum contribution of 35%. This means wave 2 could last 1 to 6 days and up to 16 days at the most. Waves ending in C2 typically make up 6-12% with a maximum of 25%. This means wave 1 could last 2 to 5 days and no more than 11. Waves ending in 2C2 typically make up 8-15% with the same maximum of 25%. This means wave 2 could last 2 to 7 days. Cumulatively, wave 2 could last 2 to 7 days and no more than 11.
MOVEMENT
Through similar considerations, wave 2 tends to contribute 16-30% of the larger wave’s overall movement with a maximum of 93%. This means wave 2 could gain 139.74 to 339.64 with a maximum gain of 1047.57. Waves ending in C2 typically move 18-32% of the larger wave with a maximum at 73%. This means wave 2 could gain 156 to 358.80 with a maximum of 819.96. Lastly, waves ending in 2C2 move 19-56% with a continued maximum of 73%. This means wave 2 could move 166.05 to 628.57. Using these ranges and considering Intermediate wave 1 will likely bottom between 3968.2 – 4409.66, Intermediate wave 2 could top between 4134.25 – 4602. Stronger consideration and likelihood places the top between 4200 – 4602.
INTERMEDIATE WAVE 3
LENGTH
In general, Intermediate wave 3 typically contributes 27-43% of the larger wave’s length it resides in with a maximum contribution of 66%. This means wave 3 could last 10 to 19 days and up to 30 days at the most. Waves ending in C3 typically make up 29-44% with a maximum of 59%. This means wave 3 could last 10 to 13 days and no more than 27. Waves ending in 2C3 typically make up 26-42% with a maximum of 45%. This means wave 3 could last 9 to 19 days and no more than 20 days. Cumulatively, wave 3 could last 10 to 18 days and no more than 20.
MOVEMENT
Through similar considerations, wave 3 tends to contribute 45-70% of the larger wave’s overall movement with a maximum of 107%. This means wave 3 could drop 396.50 to 780.57 with a maximum drop of 1203.33. Waves ending in C3 typically move 60-87% of the larger wave with a maximum at 99%. This means wave 3 could drop 517.32 to 973.60 with a maximum of 1106.91. Lastly, waves ending in 2C3 move 60-82% with a maximum of 88%. This means wave 3 could drop 519.76 to 921.67. Using these ranges and considering Intermediate wave 2 will likely top between 4200 and 4602, Intermediate wave 3 could bottom between 3278.33 – 4082.24 with stronger consideration between 3680.33-4082.24.
INTERMEDIATE WAVE 4
LENGTH
In general, Intermediate wave 4 typically contributes 5-14% of the larger wave’s length it resides in with a maximum contribution of 34%. This means wave 4 could last 2 to 6 days and up to 16 days at the most. Waves ending in C4 typically make up 5-16% with a maximum of 26%. This means wave 4 could last 2 to 7 days and no more than 11. Waves ending in 2C4 typically make up 6-20% with the same maximum of 25%. This means wave 4 could last 2 to 9 days. Cumulatively, wave 4 could last 2 to 8 days and no more than 11.
MOVEMENT
Through similar considerations, wave 4 tends to contribute 19-34% of the larger wave’s overall movement with a maximum of 85%. This means wave 4 could gain 164.45 to 379.14 with a maximum gain of 958.18. Waves ending in C4 typically move 22-37% of the larger wave with a maximum at 46%. This means wave 4 could gain 191.45 to 416.90 with a maximum of 512.44. Lastly, waves ending in 2C4 move 22-36% with a continued maximum of 46%. This means wave 4 could move 191.71 to 405.76. Using these ranges and considering Intermediate wave 3 will likely bottom between 3680.33 – 4082.24, Intermediate wave 4 could top between 3872.04 – 4487.24. Stronger consideration and likelihood places the top between 3900 – 4300.
INTERMEDIATE WAVE 5
LENGTH
In general, Intermediate wave 5 typically contributes 12-29% of the larger wave’s length it resides in with a maximum contribution of 51%. This means wave 5 could last 4 to 13 days and up to 23 days at the most. Waves ending in C5 typically make up 10-21% with a maximum of 37%. This means wave 5 could last 4 to 9 days and no more than 17. Waves ending in 2C5 typically make up 9-21% with a continued maximum of 37%. This means wave 5 could last 3 to 10 days. Cumulatively, wave 5 could last 4 to 9 days and no more than 17.
MOVEMENT
Through similar considerations, wave 5 tends to contribute 33-56% of the larger wave’s overall movement with a maximum of 90%. This means wave 5 could drop 288.55 to 631.56 with a maximum drop of 1003.99. Waves ending in C5 typically move 40-47% of the larger wave with a maximum at 60%. This means wave 5 could drop 349.11 to 533.56 with a maximum of 668.66. Lastly, waves ending in 2C5 move 40-47% with a maximum of 55%. This means wave 5 could drop 351.73 to 529.15 and no more than 618.49. Using these ranges and considering Intermediate wave 4 will likely top between 3900 and 4300, Intermediate wave 5 along with Primary wave C and Cycle wave 2 could bottom between 3370.85 – 3950 with stronger consideration between 3550-3771.
OVERALL PICTURE
The potential tops and bottoms have been plotted on the chart above for reference. We can see these targets based on the purple boxes. I laid these independent of the movement thus far. When considered with the movement we have observed I have roughly plotted where waves 1 and 2 have now likely ended. Wave 3 may have ended today with the low, however, I dislike calling the day of analysis as an actual wave end point. If 3 did not end, we may drop within the next 2 days to a very short-term bottom. Wave 4 will not be long, but there could be very large moves as another bull trap is set. This analysis does push wave 5 a little further beyond my original May 20 starting point, but it does help narrow the final market bottom. My original target is the green box, while the wave 5 box from this analysis can be found inside of it. This pending bull trap could see the market drop 400+ points inside of less than 2 weeks. A quick drop could cue additional margin calls and be the capitulation stage of this bear market correction.
Hang in there! If you have been following my analysis during this entire correction, you know the end actually is near despite the talks of long term recession. The only thing capable of giving hope and slowing inflation is if the war in Ukraine ends. My money is on something happening to Putin and Russia backing down. This immediate jubilation would provide hope that war-related supply chains for food and energy will be reversible (It won’t be quick but the market does not care). This will begin to correct some inflation which also means the Fed will not have to raise as fast or as many times as originally projected hence keeping borrowing costs lower than they would otherwise rise to by year’s end. But this is just my guess at what bottoms the market. I could be way off.
Yesterday's Analysis Still HoldsThe analysis from yesterday remains important and valid. It can be found here:
It appears Minor wave 1 most likely finished today and we are in the midst of Minor wave 2. It is possible the low prior to today's close finished Minute wave B. This means Minute wave C and Minor wave 2 will likely finish tomorrow. We will likely move up during the morning and take out the high from today.
Here is a rough take on our waves so far:
Bottom line is we are still in Intermediate wave 3. The actual bottom to Intermediate wave 3 has plenty more days to make it below 3900. The concept from yesterday that waves ending in C33 drop greater than 150% and conservatively land around 200% the movement of wave 1 is much easier to attain now.
This chart is the current plan. I will update it as more waves complete.
SP500 either topped, will top, or flying high for yearsMy patience is being tested right now. I am running out of possible days of length and price targets. I have the market in Sub-Millennial wave 1 (began June 1877), Grand SuperCycle wave 5 (began March 6, 2009), SuperCycle wave 3 (began March 23, 2020), Cycle wave 2 (began January 4, 2022), Primary wave B (began February 24, 2022), Intermediate wave C (began March 8, 2022). The shorthand for this wave is 1532BC which is based on wave letters and numbers combined. Right now, Intermediate wave C (if we are still in it, we cannot be for much longer) is:
1) 1) 15 days long
2) 2) Gain of 479.43
3) 3) 300% the length of wave A
4) 4) 172.99% the move of wave A
5) 5) Accounts for 65.22% of the larger wave’s (Primary B) length
6) 6) Makes up 91.73% of the larger wave’s (Primary B) move
This also makes the stats on Primary wave B look like:
7) 7) 23 days long
8) 8) Gain of 522.65
9) 9) 65.71% retracement of Primary wave A’s length (35 bars)
10) 10) 74.24% retracement of Primary wave A’s movement (dropped 703.97 points)
1-My models only forecast 15, 17 and 27 days in length for wave C. Most of the model agreement was below 10 days.
2-The move is not necessarily a factor by itself but the additional data will use this. The price forecasts below the current high is 4633.725. The next set of price points tops below 4700 are: 4637.45, 4652.15, 4653.96, 4657.99, 4664.74, 4665.448, 4673.78, 4674.76, 4675.68, 4676.19, 4681.05, 4689.68, 4697.24. These prices begin to have more gaps than the prices below this point. There is a 4 point grouping in the 4670s.
3-Intermediate C waves rarely exceed the 300% length of wave A which is where the index is based on today’s high. Intermediate C has moved 276.92% (wave ended C2C, we are 2BC), 281.25% (2BC), 466.67% (C2C), 517.39 (54C).
4-Intermediate C waves ending in BC have a median move which is 127.13% of Intermediate wave A and an average of 123.72%. Intermediate C waves ending in 2BC have a median move of 152.47% and an average of 142.60%. The maximum is 242.75% of intermediate wave A’s movement. We are above the normal in the current case.
5-In the three wave structure of Primary wave B, Intermediate C waves ending in BC have a median contribution of 31.25% for Primary wave B’s length and an average of 33.46%. Waves ending in 2BC have a median contribution of 49.45% and average of 44.22%. The highest contribution so far is 64.29% for 2BC and BC waves.
6-Likewise regarding the contribution to the overall wave, BC waves make up 68.74% as a median and 70.32% on average. There are four occasions above 90.49%. Waves ending in 2BC have a median make up of 90.49% and with a maximum at 95.12%. The current contribution is still acceptable, and quite common for 2BC waves.
7-The forecast days from my models at and above the current length are 26, 28, 32, 40, 51, 52, 59, 63, and 70 days in length. Strong agreement at 26 and 28 days.
8-The price forecasts for the end of Primary wave B have a few tight price target pockets which are: 4637.365, 4637.588, 4645.7, 4645.874, 4654.17, 4654.2, 4654.525, 4658.71, 4658.962, 4659.03, 4659.04, 4659.691, 4675.203, 4677.57, 4677.81, 4687.6, 4687.61, 4688.36, 4688.39.
9-Typical Primary waves ending in 2B match 25% to 400% the length of Primary wave A. Waves ending in 32B usually retrace around 55-70% with an outlier at 400%. We are in the smaller window now, but only for a day or two more at most.
10-Typical Primary waves ending in 2B move 41 to 88% of wave A’s movement. Waves ending in 32B move 54-77% which we are also nearing the high end of this window.
To conclude, 1) the market has either topped today and we finally began Primary wave C downward with the final 15 minutes of trading today; 2) the market can rise for 2 more days at most before a reversal; or 3) We are not in Primary waves B or C and instead we ended all of the downward movement on February 24. If the latter is the case we are in the early stages of Cycle 3 which will see massive upward momentum for possibly 2-3 years. If option 1 remains valid, the chart below shows early signs of where movement will take us. Regardless of option 1 or 2, we will find a bottom and then begin Cycle 3 with the same aforementioned results. I am bullish long-term, but remain bearish in the short-term until we either break above 4818 or move below 3900.