S&P500 vs VIX vs Copper/Gold Ratio. The rally continues.On this chart you can see the Volatility Index against the S&P500 and the Copper/Gold ratio.
We bring this chart to you in order to show you why we think the long term trend on the stock market will be bullish for 2025.
As you can see, VIX had an odd spike in August, when the stock market corrected to some degree.
Since the 2008 crisis, we have had similar spikes on VIX only another two times March 2020 (COVID) and September 2011.
Alls those times, the Copper/Gold ratio bottomed after a long term decline and started to rise.
This rise started also a rally on the S&P500.
Since the market was unphazed in August, we have strong reason to believe that it will extend its gains in 2025 too.
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Copper - (continued) SHORT; for now ...I fail to grasp the general consensus where the overall impression seems to be that "bad technicals" but "a very pretty fundamental picture"?
LME stocks jumped +45% just since January alone! - How is that a "good" fundamental picture? (I must be missing something, especially with China not coming back, in any way resembling past demand.)
Long(er) term, one could make a case, perhaps, but only by disregarding the hole that the decline of Chinese demand will poke into global fundamentals.
On the other hand, Copper/Gold ratio looks rather bullish.
Here is a close-up;
As for the Copper/Gold Ratio;
That is definitely what bullish looks like!
Stay SHORT for now (... and then make a lot of money trading it from under 3.50 ;-)
Copper’s many tangosIn the following charts below, we will highlight why copper looks interesting to us right now.
Firstly, the Copper Outright prices (orange) vs the Calendar spread (black). Copper calendar spread tend to move in-line with its outright prices, until major turning points, when the calendar spread leads the outright price movement. In February 2022, we observed the copper calendar spread making a significant move lower, with the outright prices following suit in April. With the calendar spread making a significant move higher now, is this what they call déjà vu?
Secondly, copper prices and the Chinese Yuan have a relatively high correlation as China is the world’s largest buyer of the metal, and by a significant margin. The recent weakness in the Yuan has led copper prices lower, but with the CNYUSD pair seemingly recovering now, could some strength in the Yuan lead the copper rally?
Thirdly, the Gold/Copper ratio generally trades within a pretty defined range, with out-of-range moves happening during major market events. The ratio’s recent high can be attributed to copper weakness compared with gold. With signs of the ratio retracing off the upper range, have we marked the end of this move? And is it time for copper to gain some ground against gold?
Looking at the price charts, we see copper trading near the significant long-term support level of 3.3. Previous attempts to break this support in July and September were both rejected.
On a shorter timeframe, we see a descending wedge pattern forming, which is generally considered a reversal pattern.
The same setup is also observed on the Micro Copper contract, which offers greater flexibility and precision in execution.
Copper’s interesting relationships with major currencies and commodities, allow us to analyze it from multiple angles. With some relationships at major inflection points now, we lean bullish on copper.
Entry at 3.44, stop at 3.1335. Target at 3.8320 and 4.0000 .
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Copper SHORT; Gold / Copper and Wall Street's mass delusionCOMEX_MINI:QC1!
Like the title says; SELL it - SHORT!
Regarding Wall Street's conviction, the "check mark shaped recovery" and other tall tales ...
.... this is the summary post.
... and here is their "Copper delusion"
Let's try Reality! ...
... Shall we?!
The original Gold / Copper Ratio post