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Trading Major Markets on Margin Part 2
Trading Major Markets on Margin: Part 2
...You need a game plan.
You need a system.
You need stops.
You need to understand true risk management and try to keep it as simple as possible at the same time .
You need discipline.
You need courage to buy when others are selling and to sell when others buying - if the correct signals are present to do so.
You need patience.
You need belief proven by evidence.
You need to test this by paper trading - or at least only trading the Dow for say $3 per point at outset.
If so and you were to decide on risking this amount per point and the stop you used on the Dow was 50 points away then the loss is $150 in this instance if wrong.
Look for trades that have risk/rewards of 3 to 10 times upside to 1 of downside whenever possible.
The upside on the Dow trade from Friday was from 24860 back to the highs and in near term it was back to 25000 - maybe 140 upside and 20 points of risk with a stop 20 lower. Or at 50 points of risk it just about qualifies as a 3 to 1 shot.
The low was 24852 on the futures.
Sometimes it works and sometimes not.
It really hurts to get stopped out and then the trade goes the way you originally thought it would.
Really hurts. More than being plain wrong usually.
But it will happen nevertheless.
On the other hand you could have got long around 24641 on Thursday and have closed out at 25000 yesterday for 360 points profit = $1080 profit before 2 points in costs.
The risk was between 20 to 50 points on the stop, so between $60 and $150 at $3 per point - so you know what you you stand to lose before the trade is initiated.
When you test it 20 times with small small numbers and see it works - or it doesn't - you can decide on whether you have a system of trading bigger numbers or not.
When you do, you can start to compound wins and losses and keep dividing total risk on ANY single trade to 5% of the total bank, 1/20th of the total bank.
If you did this with the Dow as above, (when tested to satisfaction first!) and you staked $1k with 50 points of stop it means $1000 divided by 50 points = $20 per point x 360 = $7200 profit.
For $1000 of risk.
The 20k is now worth $27,200.
Now you compound it and trade 5% of this on the next trade.
It takes less than a year to turn 10k into 1m if you can be bothered and disciplined enough.
You only need to be right half the time if the risk reward is right to begin with.
Go do the math...
There is no right way to trade. Just the one that suits your own profile and time considerations best.
This is just one way. It does work though, most of the time : )
Be lucky, whichever way you choose.
Trading Major Markets using Stops and Margin: Risk/Reward RatiosTrading Major Markets 1 of 2
You've probably already learned a lot through trading Bitcoin.
Those skill-sets are super scalable.
Often am in too much of a hurry to cover other markets to have time to lay out stops and risk reward ratios - hoping that you're experienced enough to work them out for yourself when I miss doing them- which will be quite often in fast markets.
There just isn't time except at weekends to cover things from a newbie's perspective.
This analysis is meant to be for more experienced traders really.
But for newer traders this is one way of trading technical signals. It isn't fool-proof. No system is.
But it works well across multiple markets if used with discipline, and without emotion.
But please don't believe mere words.
If it interests you please test it first.
20 times.
Calibrate your rifle sights/stops as per the pinned message at top of crypto pages and test tolerance levels of stops given.
It will never be perfect though.
We don't have to be either.
Just close enough...
Wave Trading and Wave Counting
Don't really see where Elliott 'waves' figure in the great scheme of things or at the micro level either.
Would like to. But have little evidence usually.
But If Elliott floats your boat and you can trade off it that's great. Please share if so ; )
In the meantime smaller time scale signals are there to be traded. And if we trade them with stops and a system that works more often than not we can make good returns on half and more of the positive trades and yet limit losses on the ones that don't work out as planned.
And by trading smaller moves we become part of and merge into the longer term. It's more fun to ride the smaller waves - they too become part of the bigger wave anyway.
And if we can see a good Elliott wave amongst the noise all the better. If so, share it dude!
Until then, if you can SEE that the stop is very close or ideally that price is right on it (limit down as with FB last week for example) then it's a SPECULATIVE buy with a stop close underneath the level given.
It's 'speculative' because we don't know that this will be the bottom.
In this respect 'breakouts', though still speculative, are less so than buying lows. We all want to do the latter: the buy low sell high mantra didn't make it to market mantra-hood by coincidence.
But lows can be more difficult to spot than breakouts, which no one misses really.
For example with the Dow recently it was around 20 to 50 points of stop if you were buying the dips, (see global markets link at top of main page)
Some will just leave orders in the market with a decent stop - say if looking to buy the Dow within 10 or 15 points of a given level (cannot expect to be bang on every day, you know that already) - they leave the order to strike or not and then use a stop at least 20 lower on Dow and maybe 50 at most. And some stick in a limit order too at the same time as the stop.
Sometimes it works well.
Sometimes it never gets struck.
And sometimes it's a big fail and we get stopped out for 20-50 points on the Dow.
It takles a lot of the emotion out of the equation. Not all of it. But a lot of it.
And if you can work out the RISK in points you can then work out potential rewards too.
Then it becomes possible to divide your total bank into 20 - so 20k total bank for ease of explanation = 20 trades or bets of $1000 each at a maximum - for this is effectively what we are doing... Betting that our call is better than the market's call at that moment in time compared to some future moment in time.
We don't have to be right much more than 50% of the time though we all want to be.
If we can be stoical/philosophical about losses and wins and tread the line without thinking either we're too clever or too stupid we stand a better chance of handling the inevitable losses when they come.
To think you're Billy-whizz of the markets and then discover you're not is way more disheartening than
never thinking that crap in the first place...
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GDOW: Global Dow Step UpGDOW Global Dow (USD) Step Up
The Dow Global has made a similar pattern to the Dow itself with a double bottom at 2970,
the second bottom picking up the longer term parallel. Since then it's got itself trapped
within the same triangle formation we see on the Dow, still using the lower parallel as
ultimate support on down-side tests.Whilst it continues to do so the longer term trend
remains in tact.
This index has behaved in text-book fashion as the great rally progresses, with each
decline being arrested by the previous high, and moving North in a series of steady steps.
The next big test comes on the next touch of the falling dynamic (which defines the upper
boundary of the triangle formation).
At some point soon this challenge will arrive - even if it gets rejected again one more time
this rejection is likely to be the last and should be short lived if we do see it happen first.
Once it does so it should rally with all world markets to 3109 and consolidate there awhile.
A break above 3110 would in turn be the next near term bull signal for world markets in
general, opening the way for a rally back to the ATH at 3322.
This has, so far at least, been a very reliable confirming back-up signal for other major
markets across the globe.
When it breaks higher it's therefore the confirming signal to get long of your local market too.
We're looking at a 10% average rally across all major stock markets when it triggers.
Yours might do even better ...
Be lucky.
DOWG: Dow Global: All major markets positive whilst above 2950DOWG: Dow Global This index is extremely useful as confirmation/back-up for all other major market trades as it's so free of false signals compared to Nasdaq for example. It's just tested and bounced from near term support at 2950 today. Whilst above here major markets across the world will remain positive. It's that simple on this index. That's why it's so damn useful. Hope you find it helpful!
Pennies to Thousands IWV ETF Where We Get Our CandidatesAs you can see all the major indexes are an important resistance.
On weekly: it has resistance at the 50 day.
All our indicators have turned neutral or slightly down.
We will probably have a consolidation or a pullback of a Fibonacci ratio, probably to an important moving average or the cloud.
During these periods we still may have candidates but you will have less of them.
We deal with this on our book ( Pennies to Thousands ) on the chapters of: Money Management and Putting It All Together. Also,on our Youtube videos ( Pennies to Thousands ). We will soon have a website for the special traders community looking for low price growth stocks that can become a multi bagger. We recommend you join for the fellowship of other traders, for our good ideas with entry and exit rules, for our video and audio tapes, to help with the psychology of trading and for our daily market commons like you are reading here.