XAUUSD - Prop firm or your own account? - Trading Psychology"$100K Funded? Or $1K account you own?? Welcome to the Inside Battle of Every Trader"
You want capital, freedom and win big.
But the question is: do you do it with your own money, or someone else’s?
You’ve got the $100K funded dream on one side. Big leverage, strict rules, payout drama.
And on the other side? Your own $1K account. Zero limits, zero support, and a whole lot of emotional damage.
This is a breakdown of what really happens behind both paths — the adrenaline, the self-sabotage, the mind games, and the payouts that sometimes never come.
The Prop Firm Path: Pass, Survive, Then Pray
Phase 1: You trade with hunger.
You’ve got the goal in sight, and every move is calculated. You’re alert, focused, mechanical. The structure helps. The rules feel like a challenge. Everything feels possible.
Phase 2: You trade with fear.
Now you’re tiptoeing. The target’s smaller, but the pressure is suffocating. Hesitation.Overthink. You play defense — and that’s when you lose. You stop executing your edge and start trading to avoid failure.
Funded: The real test begins.
You go live, you trade well, you hit payout… and suddenly the firm has a problem. A new rule is “suddenly” enforced. A clause is reinterpreted. A delay happens. You’re told to wait. Or worse — your account is shut with no warning.
That’s the part no one prepares you for: the waiting, the silence, the mental snap.
Passing isn’t the end. It’s barely the middle.
✅ So, Should You Go Prop? Here's What You Need to Know
Yes — if you’re ready to treat this like a hostile contract.
If you’re trading a prop account, you are trading their rules, their terms, their timing. You are not a partner — you are a performer. And they are very comfortable pulling the plug.
If you do it:
• Be colder than the system.
• Read every rule twice.
• Trade Phase 2 like a surgeon — no ego, no rush.
• And never treat a payout like it's guaranteed — treat it like a fight you have to win more than once.
You don’t just pass. You survive.
And if you’re not ready to survive, stay out.
🚨 Do not forget — It’s Simulated Capital. And That’s the Game.
Let’s not pretend it’s hidden:
You’re NOT TRADING REAL MONEY. You’re executing on a simulated account that mirrors real conditions — nothing more.
When you get paid, it’s not because you “grew” capital. It’s because you performed better than the masses who failed their challenges and fed the payout pool.
This isn’t shady. It’s the model — and it works because most traders lose.
So don’t delude yourself into thinking you’re managing funds.
You’re monetizing discipline inside a challenge-based system.
And if you know how to work that system? You get paid.
If you don’t? You become someone else’s payout.
🔓 Trading Your Own Money: Real Freedom or Emotional Damage?
With your own capital, there’s no one watching — and no one helping.
You set the rules. You decide how aggressive, how cautious, how chaotic.
But the second you click “Buy,” your psychology comes for you like a debt collector.
Because real trading isn’t what’s on the screen — it’s what’s happening between your ears.
You lose your money, you lose your confidence.
You win big, and suddenly you think you’ve figured out the market — until the market slaps you for it.
There’s no one to blame, and that makes it ten times harder.
But here’s the part no one can take away from you: every lesson is yours.
Every win is clean. Every loss hits deep. And if you make it — you really made it.
💡 How to Make Self-Funded Work for You
✅ Start with small capital — but also invest in your trading education.
Join a group that teaches you how to trade, not signal groups that just give you orders when to buy or sell, without explaining why.
✅ Join a real trading community.
Surround yourself with people who post actual breakdowns — who teach, not flex.
Avoid ego chats. Avoid circus chats. Find people who show the why, not just the entry.
(If you’re reading this, you already found the right space.)
✅ Focus on fixing mistakes — not faking wins.
Nobody cares how many pips you caught if you blew 5 trades getting there. Get real about your risk management and lot size.
✅ Learn to stop after a win.
Don’t feed your dopamine. Protect your equity. Walk away while you’re still in control.
✅ Respect your losses. Don’t chase them.
Red days don’t destroy traders. Revenge trading does. Stop. Reset. Come back sharper.
✅ If you’re not paying yourself yet, don’t panic.
Some seasons are for building, not cashing out. Don’t force results just to feel good — let the system earn before it pays.
🔄 The Hybrid Advantage: Rent the rules. Own the skill.
Some traders don’t pick a side.
They use prop firms like a hired weapon — fast, effective, disposable and
Personal accounts like a vault — protected, scalable, sacred.
They switch between them based on market conditions, mental load, and long-term goals.
You don’t need to be loyal to a style just be loyal to your results.
🧠 Final Word:
Trading becomes real, sustainable, and successful only when your mind is at peace with the path you chose.
If you wake up anxious about your account — if you feel pressure before you even open the chart — that’s not discipline, that’s misalignment.
This doesn’t mean trading should feel easy. But it should feel right.
You should wake up curious to read price, not terrified to take a trade.
Whether you trade $100K or $1K, the real account is always in your head.
You should feel like this work belongs to you — not like you’re trying to survive someone else’s idea of success.
Whether you trade with a prop firm or your own account, or both, the goal is the same:
Mental clarity. Emotional control. Strategic confidence. You’ll know you’re on the right path the moment the stress fades — and the obsession becomes patience, structure and joy with success.
If this lesson helped you today and brought you more clarity:
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EURUSD shortIn my previous analysis in Friday, June 20, I had short pending order on this pair.
Due to US attack on Iran base's over the weekend, I closed it and put another pending short position visible here.
SL: 1.1582
Entry: 1.1550
TP: 1.1357
I expect higher volatility today, but don't expect bigger jump to the upside, so my risk:reward is bigger now.
I expect the price to clean Friday high's and go down again.
Nasdaq Enters Correction Territory Do we go Deeper
Monthly analysis done on the NQ with the ambition to connect with current price activity and gauge a deeper technical understanding on if this is just the start of a bigger correction for the year ahead . Tools used in this video Standard Fib , TR Pocket , CVWAP/ PVWAP Incorporating PVWAP and CVWAP into trading strategies allows for a more nuanced understanding of market dynamics used to assess trading performance and market trends.
Date and price range and trend line .
Some research below regarding the previous correction that I reference the technicals to in the video .
In November 2021, the Nasdaq reached record highs
However, concerns over rising inflation, potential interest rate hikes by the Federal Reserve, and supply chain disruptions led to increased market volatility. These factors contributed to a correction in the Nasdaq, with the index experiencing notable declines as investors reassessed valuations, particularly in high-growth technology stocks.
VS Today
March 2025 Correction:
As of March 2025, the Nasdaq Composite has faced another significant correction. On March 10, 2025, the index plummeted by 4%, shedding 728 points, marking its third-worst point loss ever, with only earlier losses during the COVID-19 pandemic surpassing this.
This downturn has been attributed to several factors:
Economic Policies: President Trump's announcement of increased tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China has unsettled markets, raising fears of a potential recession
Inflation Concerns: Investors are closely monitoring upcoming consumer-price index (CPI) reports to gauge inflation trends, as higher-than-expected inflation could hinder the Federal Reserve's ability to lower interest rates, exacerbating stock market declines
Sector-Specific Declines: Major technology companies, including Tesla, have experienced significant stock price declines, contributing to the overall downturn in the Nasdaq
Comparison of the Two Corrections:
Catalysts: The November 2021 correction was primarily driven by concerns over rising inflation and potential interest rate hikes. In contrast, the March 2025 correction has been influenced by geopolitical factors, including new tariff announcements, and ongoing inflation concerns.
Magnitude: While both corrections were significant, the March 2025 correction has been more severe in terms of single-day point losses. The 4% drop on March 10, 2025, resulted in a loss of 728 points, marking it as one of the most substantial declines in the index's history.
Investor Sentiment: Both periods saw increased market volatility and a shift towards risk aversion. However, the recent correction has been accompanied by heightened fears of a potential recession, partly due to inconsistent government messaging regarding economic prospects.
In summary, while both corrections were driven by concerns over inflation and economic policies, the March 2025 correction has been more pronounced, with additional factors such as new tariffs and recession fears playing a significant role.
The Prop Trader’s Secret: How to Trade for Real MoneyTrading for Profit vs. Trading to Make Money
There’s a critical difference between trading to be profitable and trading to make money. While they may seem like the same thing, they’re not—and as a trader, you must decide which approach you want to take. If your goal is to be a prop trader who actually makes money, here’s 3 ways you shift your mindset and strategy.
1. Make Frequent Withdrawals
Traders focused on making money consistently withdraw profits. I learned this the hard way during my early trading days, seven years ago. Back then, I was obsessed with being "profitable." My focus was on hitting arbitrary profit targets—green months, green quarters, and a green year. While that mindset works for hedge funds, it’s not ideal for prop traders.
To succeed in the prop trading space, you need to prioritize frequent withdrawals.
Hit a strong run and make 2.5%? Withdraw.
Have a profitable day and the withdrawal window opens tomorrow? Even if you’re only up 1%, withdraw.
Frequent withdrawals create a feedback loop: the more often you secure profits, the more motivated and disciplined you’ll be to continue nailing winning trades. Prop trading comes with inherent uncertainty, so obsessing over 10% profit targets or arbitrary milestones only sets you up for disappointment.
2. Follow the 1-1-1 Rule
Stick to the 1-1-1 rule:
Take 1 trade per day.
Risk 1% per trade.
Focus on 1 financial instrument.
Adhering to this rule will transform your trading. You’ll avoid overtrading, reduce your exposure to losing streaks, and eliminate the emotional tilt that often leads to blowing accounts.
This discipline has kept me consistently profitable over the years. Whether you’re trading GBPUSD, EURUSD, XAUUSD, or US30, pick one instrument and master it. The path to trading success is as much about mastering yourself as it is about mastering the market.
3. Focus on Small Risk-to-Reward Ratios (R:R)
Small R:R trades may not sound exciting, but they’re the backbone of consistent profitability. Catching a 1:10R move might feel like the ultimate trading achievement, but are you here to be "profitable" or to make money? Make up your mind.
Most traders chase high R:R setups, only to give back 80% of their gains after one emotional mistake. Instead, focus on smaller, attainable targets:
Learn to consistently spot 1:2, 1:3, and occasionally 1:4 R setups.
On a $200k account, a single 1:3R trade at 1% risk generates $6,000.
After locking in a winning trade, withdraw your profits and repeat the process. Over time, these smaller, consistent gains will make you far richer than grinding for massive R:R setups and risking it all in the process.
The Bottom Line
Prop trading is about discipline, consistency, and the ability to extract real money from the markets—not just hitting arbitrary profit goals. By making frequent withdrawals, following the 1-1-1 rule, and focusing on attainable R:R setups, you can trade with confidence, avoid burnout, and get make real money! Isn't that why we're all here?
Happy Trading
GBPJPY Buy trade activated Oct 25 2024Another simple trade using the knowledge of supply and demand, liquidity capture, london session and new york session. This was an intraday trade -> buy limit using mt4. Always pay attention to the manipulations and Session you are trading, orderflow will always respect the higher timeframe. First analysis of this trade was from Daily structure to 1h structure.
Refinement : Using 15 min TF to find optimal entry.
RR: 6:1
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How to start as a trader, and have a good chance of making it.I have written on this subject before, see my signature.
There is more though.
If you are starting out, there is a LOT you need to know. I will start with some basics. Some of them you may scoff at, and say I am wrong, but I can assure you I am not. Truly.
Read my previous post here:
After reading that, you may well think again about trying trading. If the idea of taking a long time (at least 6-8 months for a natural) to learn something bothers you, or you need to make money NOW , then I would advise you that trading is not for you, or not yet, at least. For a start, being impatient is the absolute worst trait you can possibly have.
If you still want to continue, then I can help you.
You will have to have the patience to read a lot of words.
1. Pick an instrument you want to trade. If you are a stock trader it's different, because you should be trading the stocks that are "in play" that day. Typically I'd recommend the day after results/news came out, rather than the actual day itself, when you are starting out. Why? It's easier to see the way the price is trending, and the trend is your friend.
If you are not trading stocks, I would recommend either a share index like SP500 or NASDAQ or FTSE or DJ30, or an FX pair that is NOT EURUSD. Oil and Gold are Ok too. Crypto I would not recommend for a beginner.
Reasons: Let's start with Crypto. The big players can pay the exchanges, perfectly legally, to see your orders and stop-loss levels. This is not a personal vendetta against you. They can see the aggregate levels of millions of traders, and thus learn how to trigger bulk stop losses to make money off you directly. This is not legal in the other markets. The same manipulation is still possible, but not to the same extent.
Why not EURUSD? It's the biggest and most popular FX pair, so the most big-boy games are played there, see the Crypto explanation above. The banks have access to millions of client positions, so they can see when their clients get squeezed, and they assume (usually correctly) that other banks' clients will be in the same boat.
Why the rest? Tight spreads are common (look it up if you don't know what a spread is). Banks exert less control (though still some).
Why pick one instrument? because you need to LEARN how it trades. This may seem weird, but each has its own character, and if you trade more than one, you won't notice it. You may be saying "But one pair will only give a few opportunities each day/week, why not trade more than one? This is related to a recurring theme in the way I teach: "Fewer trades, more quality trades, higher confidence trades". If you properly learn the character of one pair, then it's better than guessing in 3-4 pairs. A LOT better for your profits, and that is what counts.
Next I am going to say only risk a max of 1% of the account per trade, and again your reaction might be "How am I going to make decent money with tiny risk like that?" Do the maths. If you do four trades a week(yes really just 4 a week), two wins and 2 losses at 2.5R (R is risk reward, so you lose max of 1%, and make 2.5% if you are right, then you will be up 3% in the week. 3% compounded over a year is 330%. Wow. How many hedge funds make that? You won't make as much as 3% a week, probably, but hopefully you can see that this is not too small. When you consider that a loss of 10% will blow most prop firm evaluations (see later), and even a good trader will some day lose 10 in a row just from bad luck, then 1% seems fine.
So, we have one instrument and 1%. Next, paper trade first. Make your foolish mistakes on paper. Select a demo account and do not lodge funds with any broker at first. Choose a broker that offers consumer protection. This means that they are authorised/regulated by your country's regulator. Always do this.
2. Let's say you have succeeded at paper trading over a couple of months and you are tempted to start trading your own money. Stop. Lodging $5000 or more and just kicking off is not the way. 90% of new traders lose 90% of their money in the first 90 days of real trading. Instead, look up prop firm evaluation accounts. Also look up how to choose one, as they are not all the same by any means. This will give you the opportunity to trade a $10k account for $100. Your risk is $100 only. Typically, if you make 10% (ie $1000 in this example, then you get a "real" $10k account. Don't buy any more than a $10k account at first. You will learn so much more from this account (where if you lose you lose real money, even if it is only $100), than you did from the paper trading account. Real money = real pressure. You will really want to convert the account, and not blow it. It's pride I know, but it is much more realistic than a demo account. Paper trading is crap, really. Just use it to find the pitfalls of trading and learn the character.
More tips in Part 2, but till then, think on this: Pass your $10k evaluation. make another $1000 in real money, keep $500 and pay $500 for a $80k evaluation. Now we're cooking.
EURCAD,🟢Bullish scenario🟢Here is an EURCAD 15-minute chart, as you can see the price had a bullish reaction to the daily FVG, and also the price created lots of buy-side liquidity, so we expect the upward movement.
Now in the 15-minute chart, there is an untouched bullish order block formed below the sell side, liquidity so we expect the price to get support from this order block.
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How to win a PROP FIRM? Some life-changing trickSome people asked me a system to win prop-firm challenge and be funded. I decided to share some mind blowing trick that can really let you win your first prop firm and became really, really profitable. Lot of people ask lot of money for this, i am just asking a like, a follow and your support. So, let's start with some trick:
- If you have a $10.000 account, what lot size will you use?
- Most traders use 0.50/1.0 Lots a trades. Let me say, especially if you are a beginner, that this is wrong and you will fail 100%. Why? Because it will be really hard for you to manage emotions and be accurate. I know, some systems use 1:3, 1:6 or above R:R and you can also have a 30% win rate to be still profitable. I know that, i know how to increse accuracy, i know the best level to enter, the inducement entry, the high accuracy setup and most of the shit you can find online. But let's be honest, most of the traders that start a challenge account, sucks with system and will fail. And, most important, traders that start a challenge are not professionals that can spent 8/10 hrs a day waiting for the best entry.
- So what system should i use to win a challenge?
- Swing. Probably, if you start a challenge, you will fail in the first week. Go swing, wait for the profits, manage the entries, and using my money management system, you can chill and don't be worried during the challenge.
- What about the money management so?
- I will explain you better in a new thread, if this ideas will reach at least 15 likes.
- This shit is not helpful, i there is nothing new that can help me.
- So, i will show you something so simple that will change your trading style in a second. I suggest you to use cTrader. In cTrader, when you open a pair, you can see market sentiment. this will show you a ratio about long/short. When you see that the sentiment is imbalanced (More than 60% are long or short) you know that you should wait and not open a trades. You will see the sentiment increasing in long or short (it will be 80/20, and probably more in the next days). I am pretty sure your analysis are agree with the market sentiment. So, if 97% of the traders loose money and, for example, 85% of traders are short, what do you think the price will do? There are high chances will go in the opposite direction. So wait, and don't be worried to miss a profitable trades. Every trader is thinking exactly like you. Sentiment is telling you that. They will loose money at 97%, do you?
I have lot of trick more that will really help you win a prop firm, and be profitable. Support and follow me and i will reveal more
EUR/USD key levelOANDA:EURUSD
Now for the Euro we are in a global sideways range
We need to wait for a reaction from the key level marked with a red eye. Next, you can consider opening long-term positions in continuation of the trend.
Otherwise, we will go to the 1.050 zone
On a 15-minute timeframe, you can work locally long until the turbulence zone
Also on the 4h timeframe we have a 5-point divergence in the buy zone
P.S (This is not an investment recommendation, this is my personal opinion.)
XAUUSD BULLISH Biased on 23-01-2024🏦 Signal 2:
✅ XAUUSD/GOLD BUY STOP NOW @ 2027.25-2026.25❗️
Sl : 2025-2023.5
Tp1 : 2033
Tp2 : 2035
🏦 Signal 3:
✅ XAUUSD/GOLD BUY NOW @ 2025-2022❗️
Sl : 2022-2020 , -30/-20 pips
Tp1 : 2030, +75 pips
Tp2 : 2033, +85 pips
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PROFIT! How to get past your lizard brain and make money!There have been quite few books written about this, and mainly, they deal with how to avoid being defeated by your own fear and greed. Fair enough, and this article does NOT replace them.
The books are best suited to those who have traded for a while, and need to improve their performance. If you are a beginner, you won't know the first thing about the various emotions that grip you when you are trading, so reading about them at this stage is futile.
However, there is a way to immediately benefit from one simple thing you can do.
See my profile for reasons.., everyone should use a dummy account at first, but it's very hard to know when to switch to real money. For a start, the emotions are really not there at all when it isn't real cash you are risking. It's almost a game, because it doesn't matter if you win or lose.
Many new traders will switch after some decent results over a month or so. I'd recommend 3 months minimum before risking real money, but whatever. Doing what I suggest below is really good advice anyway.
Once they switch to a real money account, they find it is a lot harder, and they start taking losses of hundreds or thousands of dollars, and at that point they either blow up, trying to trade it all back, or give up (possibly the right option!). Maybe you have done this already?
This is because they are risking their own money. A typical account is $5,000-$10,000, and as I have mentioned many many times, 90% of new traders will lose 90% of their account in the first 90 days. Again, see my profile for a guide to how to avoid this.
HERE'S THE REALLY GOOD ADVICE RIGHT HERE:
You may have heard of Prop Firms before. One hit the headlines recently and not for the right reasons. PSA: These firms are not generally regulated, BUT read on. This article is not about how to make millions from prop trading. It's about conquering your ability to naturally lose money. Everybody is literally PROGRAMMED to lose. They have to deprogram themselves, and using a prop firm is the best way to do this.
Instead of putting $10,000 into a trading account and risking $100 at a time (a reasonably sensible course of action), only to find that after a month you are down $500-$1,000, and starting to worry that trading is not for you, pay $160 for a $10,000 prop account. Let me explain how this works. I will use an anonymous (but real) example. Shop around to see what suits you.
They give you a demo account with $10,000 in it. You have to make 10% ($1,000) to pass the first test, and your time is unlimited. If you lose $1,000 overall or lose $500 in one day, you lose your $160 and have to buy a new one. If you pass, you have a second test where you have to make 5% ($500). The rules for losing are the same.
If you pass both tests you get a new $10,000 account and your $160 back. You then trade the new account, but they will pay you 80% of your profits. You have the same rules for losing, at which point your account is closed.
Q: WHY IS THIS USEFUL TO YOUR BEGINNER JOURNEY?
A: Because you are only risking $160. This sits in between a dummy account and a real one. It means something , but you can retain the ESSENTIAL mood of detachment that you need to carry on treating it as a game. If you are trading a real account, you could lose $500 in 5 trades at some stage (statistics say it is inevitable over time), and that is something a professional can shrug off, because they have confidence and they know it's part of the game, but you can't when you are starting out. You need to build your confidence, and this is the best way to do that. Losing $500 in 5 trades is OK with the prop account, as long as you don't do it one day!
Your $160 will last a while, even if you are having a bad time. In that time, you will learn a LOT. If you lose, it's only another $160 to try again with all the knowledge you have learned. If you win, you are trading with free money as you have your $160 refunded. Don't go mad.
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Lessons from MFF's Regulatory Challenge in Forex TradingYesterday, MFF (My Forex Funds) was hit with an unexpected and sudden blow when both the provincial securities regulator in Canada and the commodities regulator in the United States issued orders that effectively prevented them from trading securities or accessing their bank accounts. This significant action was taken without any prior notice or opportunity for discussion.
As a consequence, MFF now finds itself in a state of uncertainty, with its future hanging in the balance. At least until these freeze orders are lifted or modified, the business is effectively frozen as well.
This situation has imparted several important lessons:
1) The Proprietary Trading Firms in the US and Canada are likely embarking on a complex and protracted journey that may ultimately result in the establishment of more robust and transparent regulations within this industry. While the outcome remains uncertain, the hope is that such measures will enhance the safety and security of similar businesses in the future.
2) Given the inherent volatility and uncertainties associated with businesses like MFF, it becomes evident that regularly withdrawing profits is a wise practice. Relying solely on compounding, as enticing as it may be, can leave businesses vulnerable to unforeseen regulatory actions or market fluctuations.
3) This incident underscores the importance of relying on one's own private funds for trading endeavors. While Proprietary Trading Firms offer opportunities for profit, they also expose traders to external risks beyond their control. Maintaining control over personal funds provides a layer of security and autonomy that cannot be easily replicated in external trading environments.
In summary, the events surrounding MFF underscore the constantly changing nature of financial regulation. They emphasize the importance for traders and businesses to remain adaptable and prioritize sound financial strategies in an unpredictable market.
One key takeaway is that while being funded may be an intriguing avenue, it can be challenging to generate substantial revenue. Any such revenue should be deposited into our primary trading account, where it is shielded from external interference, ensuring that no entity can hinder your performance or restrict your trading activities unexpectedly.
The core focus should always be on continuous learning, studying, and improving our trading and investment methods and strategies. This commitment to self-improvement should remain at the forefront of your priorities.
How you can make 6 figures a month using prop fundsFirstly you need to be able to acquire one account such as a 100k account. Assuming your target is $110000 you start by risking $500 a trade until you reach $3000. if you take losses you continue risking the same until you're back at the starting point. once you reach $3000 of profit you now up your risk to $1000 until you get to $6000 and then $2000. This should easily allow you to pass phase 1 of the challenge, you then repeat the same for phase 2.
Once you receive your first funded account, you are now going to purchase another challenge and copy trade your funded account (master acc) onto the challenge. Repeating the above and considering you have a strategy with a good win rate, you are now able to make money while passing the challenges without having to trade 2 accounts manually. You continue this process and max your funding with one prop fund, and then move on to a second and so on until you have 7 figures in funding under your belt.
The key is to remain focused and have your psychology and mindset on point. making a mistake on your master account is going to reflect on all accounts. The same goes with profits however. If you have 1 mill in funding and make 1% in a week on one of your 100k accounts, then the other 9 will also make 1% bringing you to a total of 10% ($100000) in one week.
My favourite prop fund atm is properfunded.com
Advantages of Trading with Prop FirmsProprietary (prop) trading firms offer traders the opportunity to trade with the firm's capital, rather than their own, in exchange for a share of the profits. Here are some of the advantages and benefits of trading a prop fund account:
Access to More Capital: Prop trading firms typically provide traders with access to significantly more capital than they would have if they were trading with their own funds. This allows traders to take larger positions and potentially earn greater profits.
Lower Costs: Prop firms often provide their traders with access to discounted commissions, lower borrowing costs, and other benefits that can help reduce trading costs.
Training and Support: Many prop trading firms offer training and support to their traders, which can be especially beneficial for those who are new to trading or who want to improve their skills.
Shared Risk: Because prop trading firms are providing the capital, they share in the risk of the trades. This can be beneficial for traders who want to take larger positions but don't want to risk losing all of their own capital.
Performance-Based Compensation: Prop firms typically offer traders performance-based compensation, meaning that traders are only paid a portion of the profits they generate. This incentivizes traders to focus on making profitable trades and can help align their interests with those of the firm.
Overall, trading a prop fund account can offer traders access to more capital, lower costs, training and support, shared risk, and performance-based compensation.
To find out about my favourite prop firms, comment below
Naspers is going up - this is stuff they don't want you to knowCup and Handle has formed on Naspers and has even gapped up showing strong momentum.
7 >21 >200 Moving averages all turned up.
Target 1 is R3,626.50
CONCERN is that Gaps close 70% of the time and Naspers is a wild one which acts erratically.
Number of reasons which I don't think they'll be happy if I tell you but I'm an independent.
1. Companies love to trade the arbitrage between Tencent (China) and Naspers SA
2. Prop traders love to scalp on lower time frames chasing the daily runs, falls and gaps.
3. You'll see in the volume with Naspers there are tons of 1's thrown into the buys and sells. This is to spook traders out as they have to pay more brokerage.
A company like Naspers is a major game player for many traders and for this reason, the erratic movements in the charts look like this.
What is really up with the Funded Programs?Before we go any further, I want to state that
1) This post is NOT PROMOTING ANY prop firms/funded trader programs,
2) I do not hate or have anything against any prop firms/funded trader programs, I am just sharing my understanding from what I have read and experienced, and
3) Info here is not complete. If you choose to embark on any programs, please make sure you do your own due diligence.
Traditional Prop Firm
Typically refers to a group of traders that focus on buying and selling financial assets with the firm’s capital. The trader uses that firm's money to trade and in exchange receives a small wage and a large percentage of the profits. In practice, proprietary trading firms provide the capital, proprietary technology, training, coaching, and mentoring for you to become an elite trader.
Funded Programs
There has been an ever-increasing number of funded trader programs, marketing to retail traders about the huge profit-sharing potential (75-90%) when they become "a funded trader." And all that is required is paying for and passing an evaluation/testing period. You would pay anywhere from $84 to $184 for a $10,000 account and it could go as high as you want (almost)
A trader in the evaluation/testing period would have
- Profit target of 8-10% in phase 1 (typically 30 days)
- Profit target of 5% in phase 2 (typically 60 days)
- Daily drawdown of no more than 5%
- Overall drawdown of no more than 10-12%
From my experience coaching retail traders, newbie or average trader has an account size of no more than $10,000. This makes the idea of being funded to trade become really attractive, limiting the downside while almost maximizing the potential. However, there has also been a lot of negativity about these funded programs;
- the evaluation and actual trading accounts are demo accounts
- the company makes more money from traders failing than from profitable traders
- some traders claim to have never received their payouts
Are funded programs scams?
Again, I have not evaluated ALL funded programs to say this, but probably not. (Do your own due diligence!)
Companies running funded programs are likely just deploying a good business model, addressing a pain that most retail traders have (funding their account) and filling that gap.
Should you jump into a funded program?
There is a lot more information (more than discussed above) that needs to be considered before you jump in. A brief checklist:
1) Do you have a profitable trading strategy to deploy? ( if you don't have a profitable strategy, keep reading, learning & testing )
2) Have you used it for at least a year? ( avoid using funded programs as a testing ground, it can get costly! do it on a demo or even a $1,000 account first )
3) Does the strategy meet the max drawdown conditions? ( 5% a day, 10% total? For example, a martingale strategy is not likely to work )
4) How likely are you to bend your trading rules? ( rules set by the programs are set in stone, a breach even by the slightest and you would have failed )
5) Is it the right time to start? ( are markets in consolidation, on a holiday period, or super volatile with no clear trend )
Remember that the average annualized return of the S&P500 is 11.88% (1957 to 2021). Trying to make 8-10% in 30 days and then 5% in 60 days just to pass, tends to put the trader under a lot of stress. How do you perform under significant pressure?
What are your views of the funded programs? Share it with me in the comments
I have never thought much about the funded programs. But recently have been considering giving it a shot and live-streaming the trading process daily. Would you join me on the stream?
Stay tuned, it might just happen.
Bankrupt retest long. Targets $5 -> $47 Making a bet on retest*Sigh*
I know what you are going to say..
"Im an idiot"
Actually. I am just trading my plan...
I had a meme idea. Lets long this instrument with pure techicals.
Ride the possibility of a retest of resistance at $50 and set targets,
1st target. $5
2nd target $47
If this happens to be correct. I am F genious.
Look I just work at a bank, to be able to say the least that this is a gamble
And if you do fall into the red. Pull your positions.
Good luck everyone.