Measured Moves: A Guide to Finding TargetsMeasured Moves: A Guide to Finding Targets
Visualizing the boundaries of price movement helps anticipate potential swing points. The concept of measured moves offers a structured framework to estimate future price behavior, based on the observation that each swing move often mirrors the size of the previous one, assuming average price volatility remains consistent. While not exact, this approach provides a practical method to approximate the extension of a swing move.
Background
Determining profit targets across various methods and timeframes can be challenging. To address this, I reviewed the tactics of experienced traders and market research, noting key similarities and differences. Some traders relied more on discretion, while others used technical targets or predetermined risk-to-reward ratios. Levels of support and resistance (S/R) and the Fibonacci tool frequently appeared, though their application varied by trader.
Based on current evidence, levels appear most relevant when tied to the highest and lowest swing points within the current price structure, for example in a range-bound market. In contrast, sporadic or subtle levels from historical movements seem no more significant than random points. The Fibonacci tool can provide value since measurements are based on actual price range; however, the related values have limited evidence to support them.
To explore these ideas, I conducted measurements on over a thousand continuation setups to identify inherent or consistent patterns in swing moves. It’s important to emphasize that tools and indicators should never be used blindly. Trading requires self-leadership and critical thinking. The application of ideas without understanding their context or validity undermines the decision-making process and leads to inconsistent results. This concept formed the foundation for my analysis, ensuring that methods were tested rather than taken at face value.
Definitions
Trending price movement advances in steps, either upward or downward. This includes a stronger move followed by a weaker corrective move, also known as a retracement.
When the corrective move is done and prices seem to resume the prevailing trend, we can use the prior move to estimate targets; this is known as a projection.
For example, if a stock moves up by 10%, pauses, and subsequently makes another move, we can utilize that value to estimate the potential outcome. Well thats the idea..
Data
Through manual measurements across various timeframes, price structures, and stock categories, I have gathered data on retracements and projections. However, this information should not be considered precise due to market randomness and inherent volatility. In fact, deviations—such as a notable failure to reach a target or overextensions—can indicate a potential structural change.
As this study was conducted with a manual approach, there is a high risk of selection bias, which raises concerns about the methodology's reliability. However, it allows for a more discretionary perspective, enabling observations and discretion that might be overlooked in a purely automated analysis. To simplify the findings, the presented values below represent a combination of all the data.
Retracement Tool
In the context of price movements within a trend, specifically continuation setups, retracements typically fall between 20% and 50% of the prior move. While retracements beyond 50% are less common, this does not necessarily invalidate the setup.
From my observations, two distinct patterns emerge. First, a shallow retracement where the stock consolidates within a narrow range, typically pulling back no more than 10% to 20% before continuing its trend. Second, a deeper retracement, often around 50%, followed by a nested move higher before a continuation.
For those referencing commonly mentioned values (though not validated), levels such as 23.6%, 38.2%, 44.7%, and 50% align with this range. Additionally, 18% frequently appears as a notable breakout point. However, I strongly advise against relying on precise numbers with conviction due to the natural volatility and randomness inherent in the market. Instead, a more reliable approach is to maintain a broad perspective—for example, recognizing that retracements in the 20% to 50% range are common before a continuation. This approach allows flexibility and helps account for the variability in price action.
Projection Tool
When there is a swing move either upward or downward, we can utilize the preceding one of the same type for estimation. This approach can be used exclusively since it is applicable for retracements, projections, and range-bound markets as long as there has been a similar price event in recent time.
In terms of projection, the most common range is between 60% and 120% of the prior move, with 70% to 100% being more prevalent. It is uncommon for a stock to exceed 130% of the preceding move.
Frequently mentioned values in this context include 61.8% and 78.6% as one area, although these values are frequently surpassed. The next two commonly mentioned values are 88.6% and 100%, which are the most frequent and can be used effectively on their own. These values represent a complete measured move, as they closely mimic the magnitude of the prior move with some buffer. The last value, 127%, is also notable, but exceeding this level is less common.
Application
The simplest application of this information is to input the range of 80% to 100% into the projection tool. Then, measure a similar prior move to estimate the subsequent one. This is known as the measured move.
There are no strict rules to follow—it’s more of an art. The key is to measure the most similar move in recent times. If the levels appear unclear or overly complicated, they likely are. The process should remain simple and combined with a discretionary perspective.
Interestingly, using parallel channels follows the same principle, as they measure the range per swing and project average volatility. This can provide an alternative yet similar way to estimate price movement based on historical swings.
The advantage of this method is its universal and adaptable nature for setting estimates. However, it requires a prior swing move and is most effective in continuation setups. Challenges arise when applying it to the start of a new move, exhaustion points, or structural changes, as these can distort short-term price action. For instance, referencing a prior uptrend to project a downtrend is unlikely to be effective due to the opposing asymmetry in swing moves.
In some cases, measured moves from earlier periods can be referenced if the current range is similar. Additionally, higher timeframes take precedence over lower ones when determining projections.
This is nothing more than a tool and should be used with a discretionary perspective, as with all indicators and drawing tools. The true edge lies elsewhere.
Example Use
1. Structure: Identify an established trend or range and measure a clear swing move.
2. Measured Move: Apply the measurement to the subsequent move by duplicating the line to the next point or using a trend-based Fibonacci extension tool set to 100% of the prior swing.
The first two points define the swing move.
The third point is placed at the deepest part of the subsequent pullback or at the start of the new move.
3. Interpretation: While this is a simple tool, its effective use and contextual application require experience and practice. Remember, this process relies on approximation and discretionary judgment.
Retracement
Elliot waves meets Fibonacci [Educational]Hello everyone,
today I like to share how I use elliot waves combined with fibonacci to analyze the market.
The standard rules are:
- Wave 2 can now be lower then the start of wave 1
- Wave 3 should be the longest
- Wave 4 should not breach the high of wave 1
But to have a more objective view there are also price targets to be reached within the different waves. It's a complex subject to show in one chart, so feel free to ask in the comment section if you have any questions.
BTC: The MESSY CUP & HANDLE pattern. Bull or Retrace, Who Win?On the left is the Bullish Fibonacci while the right would be the Retracement Fibonacci.
Looking at such a messy trend which give the glimpse of Cup Handle in the coming last 10 days of November. One will have to decide either another uptrend or retrace to close for the month.
Spring '21 Resistance Halts DOGE, Retracement Coming??Here I have COINBASE:DOGEUSD on the Weekly Chart!
Last week COINBASE:DOGEUSD jumped .15 cents or roughly 102% following the final voting count electing Donald Trump the next President of the USA. Along his campaign, we saw a very heavy Pro-Crypto agenda along with the on-boarding of Elon Musk, known for his interest in COINBASE:DOGEUSD possibly being given a position running a "Department Of Government Efficiency".
Price on COINBASE:DOGEUSD after breaking the Aug - Oct '21 Highs has halted right at the Apr - May '21 Resistance. Now with all the speculations coming out about the imminent RISE of price, where is a good place to start investing before the boom?!?!
Based off the High @ .4398 to the Low @ .0805, just before the Break of Structure, We are given some Fibonacci Levels that align with Potential Buying Opportunities if Price needs Support to continue Higher to the All Time High @ .7605.
*Aug / Oct '21 Highs
.3550 - .3025
23.6% - 38.2%
*Mar / Apr '24 Highs
.2290 - .2067
*Golden Zone
.2178
61.8%
Retrace before BTC All Time High?I could see the price going back to the EMA 50 or EMA 200 on the 1 hour time frame. Many people could get into high leveraged long positions just before the all time high. This could cause price to reverse and make a mean reversion before the continuation of the uptrend pass the old all-time high.
EU Double Top Breaks Rising Support, 300+ Pip Sell Set-Up!Here I have FX:EURUSD on the Daily Chart!
After last weeks Double Top was Confirmed, we see Price make a Bearish Break to and through the Rising Support created by the April, June and August Lows.
-The Testing Candle alone generates ~500K in Selling Volume making the Rising Support weak enough to then Break Down to where price sits now.
Applying the Fibonacci Retracement Tool from the Higher High @ 1.12138 to the Lower Low @ 1.08107, we can see a couple things:
*23.6% Level sits right at the 200 EMA which is curving down and Price is now trading Below
*38.2% Level sits right in the center of the Resistance Zone created from the March Highs
*50% Level is at the Higher Low that was Broken to Confirm the Double Top
I suspect that Price will need to Retest the Break of Rising Support before it can continue to Push Down!
Potential Set-Up: Sell Entry
1.09058 (23.6%) - 1.09647 (38.2%)
SL - 1.10112 (50%)
TP - 1.0665
EUR-USDThis EUR/USD chart shows a recent decline after reaching a resistance level around 1.12137, forming a double-top pattern that suggests a trend reversal. The price has since dropped sharply and is approaching a significant "Order Blocker" zone between 1.07515 and 1.08022, where institutional buying may occur.
If the price holds in this area, a potential bounce toward the 50% retracement level near 1.1000 could happen, indicating a bullish correction. However, if the price breaks below this zone, further bearish momentum could push it toward the next support at 1.0715.
In summary, the market is currently bearish, but the reaction at the "Order Blocker" will determine whether a reversal or further decline is likely. Traders should monitor this key zone closely.
EUR-USDThe eurusd pair creates double top at 1.1200 level and then drop and breakout of M pattern at 1.1000 and go down side to 1.09050. now market drop sharp and its time to retracement to 1.100 again. Pair just broke the support and now its turn support into resistance. and then drop to 1.0800 to 1.07500 support zone.
Gold roll over?It looks like Gold is about to roll over and correct after a huge run to the upside. I am still bullish about the long term of gold. We might see much higher prices, but for now I think cold might cool of because many investors seek for riskier assets such as tech. Central Banks are starting to print money again and give the market money infusions. We saw what happend since china decided to start the printer again.
Bitcoin Potential Bull Flag w/ $35K (91%) Gain on Valid Break!Here I have BITSTAMP:BTCUSD on the Daily Chart!
2024 has been an Exceptional Year for Bitcoin after its nearly 2 Year Monumental Recovery from the Nov. 2022 Low @ $15,512 to pushing price up past the 3 Year High of $69,000 on Nov. 10th 2021 to the now New 8 Month High @ $73,835 on Mar. 14th 2024!
Fall '21/Summer '22 - Bitcoin is in a Declining Stage
Fall '22/Summer '23 - Bitcoin is in an Accumulation Stage
Fall '23/Spring '24 - Bitcoin is in a Advancing Stage
Spring '24/Fall '24 - ( Distribution or Accumulation) ???
Fall '24/Summer '25 - ???
Currently, Bitcoin is exhibiting signs of a Potential Bull Flag with a Flagpole suggesting a potential 91.78% or $35,334.57 Gain with a Valid Bullish Break!!
We can see Bitcoin has been in a Descending Channel since the Spring of 2024 came but Price Action has made a few key movements that I'd like to point out:
- After traveling the Descending Channel from the Higher High @ $73,835.57, Price makes a False Break of the Channel that touches the Previous Level of Structures Higher High and makes a 38.2% Retracement of the Current Higher High and is immediately brought back up into the Channel.
- Price continues to stay magnetized to the 200 EMA since its entered the Channel but Price seems to be trading Above it with ease in this Consolidation Zone.
Now this current Channel or Consolidation Price has been in from this Summer '24 going into this Fall '24 can either be an Accumulation OR Distribution Stage, all based on if we get a Bullish or Bearish Break to this Channel and something tells me we are looking at a Potential Bull Flag in the Making with the potential to reach
-Bullish Bias on BITSTAMP:BTCUSD
Fundamentals:
- BITSTAMP:BTCUSD has been gaining not only Domestic but Global traction with stories like El Salvador this year making Bitcoin its Official Currency!
-Economics now accepting more transactions Crypto-wise showing honest Expansion and Integration into society
-A lot of statistics show that people believe the USD may be looking at a downfall in the coming years and Crypto, specially BITSTAMP:BTCUSD potentially being a savior! People are not only fleeing to Commodities and Bonds when devaluation peers its head, but Crypto seems to start being another sector to look towards!
Lucid Group Trip Down to Lower $3's Before Uplift?! - LCIDHere I have Lucid Group, Inc - LCID on the Weekly Chart!
First, Technical. We see Price rock bottoms to its Lowest @ $2.29 on April 22 2024 and just after the Negative Earnings and Revenue report on May 6th 2024, Price creates an Equal High @ $3.35 followed by a Violation of Structure giving us a Higher Low @ $2.48 finding Support in the $2.50 Area to then make a Higher High @ $4.32!
Turning this once looking Downtrend to an Uptrend.
Prices Higher Highs and Lows are now being halted at the $4.20 - $4.40 Range where I suspect Price will need to find more Support before it can continue on to what I believe will be its next Target being the Next Swing High @ $5.31!
*Divergence in the Highs of Price relative to the Highs on RSI show Bearish Signs
The Bullish Rally in Price on August 19th left open quite a Gap to Fill from $3.83 - $3.30 and If Price is willing to fill it, the $3.46 - $3.13 Area looks very Valuable being there's:
1) - Equal High @ $3.35 being Potential Support
2) - Golden Fibonacci Zone @ $3.34 (55.9%) - $3.22 (61.8%)
(Based from HL @ $2.48 to HH @ $4.43)
3) - RSI after Breaking EQH, starts Trading Above 50
4) BBTrend Printing Smaller, Dark, Red Bars
All leading to Bullish Markers!
Now, Fundamentals. Lucid Group announced that it is set to launch not only 3 new affordable EV's but that it also plans to unveil the Gravity SUV later in the year "highlighting the company's advanced technology and mileage range on electric vehicles." In competition with Tesla's long reign.
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The "Fastest Armored Car On The Planet" is sparking investor interest with Lucid Air Sapphire is giving serious challenges to Tesla!
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The past 2 Earnings & Revenue Reports have both been Disappointing for the company but the most recent Report on August 5th compared to May 6th tell a slightly different story ..
May - Revenue Estimate (173.544M) / Reported (172.2M) = -844.404k
Aug.- Revenue Estimate (190.303M) / Reported (200.6M) = +10.279M
*Next Earnings and Revenue - November 5th 2024
LCID will be worth keeping a watch on .. Stay Tuned!!
NQ Bullish with Signs of a Potential Reversal in Early OctoberThe Nasdaq 100 ( CME_MINI:NQ1! ) futures continue to exhibit a strong uptrend, driven by market optimism and supportive economic factors. As seen on the chart, the Bonsai trend indicator remains bullish, signaling the ongoing upward momentum. However, caution is warranted as we approach a critical resistance zone, where multiple technical and external factors suggest the potential for a pullback.
Key Technical Levels and Signals
Resistance at 20,600 : The price is nearing a significant resistance zone between 20,500 and 20,600, where previous highs have been met with seller pressure. The market may struggle to break through this zone in the short term, leading to possible consolidation or retracement.
Bearish Strength on Oscillators : The Bonsai OS is starting to signal an incoming bearish strength, where the oscillator fails to make new highs while the price continues to rise. This divergence suggests that the current bullish move may be losing momentum, increasing the probability of a reversal or correction in the near term.
Short-Term Retracement : A retracement to the 19,800-20,000 region would be healthy for the overall trend, providing potential buying opportunities for traders waiting for a dip. This level aligns with previous support zones and retracement levels, making it a logical area for price to stabilize before another move upward.
Geopolitical and Economic Factors Affecting NQ
U.S. Elections and Tax Policy : The upcoming U.S. election between Vice President Harris and former President Trump is creating uncertainty around future tax policies, particularly regarding capital gains and unrealized gains taxation. Investors may start adjusting their portfolios as we get closer to October, historically a volatile month for the markets.
Global Conflicts and Economic Risks : Rising tensions in Ukraine, the Middle East, and Taiwan add further geopolitical risk. Market participants are keeping a close eye on potential escalations, as these conflicts could shift sentiment toward a risk-off environment, impacting indices like the Nasdaq 100.
Fed Policy and Economic Data : The Federal Reserve's recent rate cut has temporarily buoyed the markets, but upcoming data releases—particularly around inflation and employment—could change the tone. Economic surprises in early October could lead to volatility, especially if the data fails to support the current bullish narrative.
Conclusion: Bullish But Cautious
The overall Bonsai indicator continues to signal an uptrend, and the market looks poised to push higher if it can break through the 20,600 resistance zone. However, the oscillator's bearish divergence and external political risks suggest a potential reversal or at least a short-term correction in the first week of October. Traders should monitor these signals closely and consider adjusting their positions accordingly. Keep an eye on the VIX as well, which has been known to spike during periods of heightened uncertainty, offering opportunities to hedge against increased volatility.
Euro Technical Analysis: EUR/USD Stalls Inside of Yearly HighEUR/USD has put in a very bullish outlay so far in Q3 trade. But last week saw bulls stall inside of the 2024 high and that brings questions to topside continuation in the pair.
EUR/USD continued the advance last week following the rate cut rally following the European Central Bank’s move two weeks ago. There was technical context for bullish continuation as the pair broke through the topside of a bull flag formation but, to date, buyers haven’t been able to push for a re-test of the yearly high at the 1.1200 handle.
There was seemingly an open door for a test of the highs last week as the pair showed three consecutive days of swing highs within 25 pips of that big figure. This week started with pullback but that also shows a bit of indecision as sellers were unable to test below last Thursday’s swing-low.
EUR/USD Bigger Picture
At this point it’s difficult to argue with the intermediate-term outlay in the pair, which has been decisively bullish since the rally began around the Q3 open. The pair was working around the 1.0700 at the time and as USD-weakness, prodded by a sell-off in USD/JPY, continued to drive DXY to fresh lows, EUR/USD continued its upward advance.
But taking a step back, the argument can be made that the pair remains in the confines of a longer-term range and last week’s respect of the 1.1200 handle further speaks to that, as that, itself, is a lower-high from the 2023 swing at 1.1275.
This sets up for an important few weeks as price remains within that shorter-term bullish trend into the Q3 close, with those very obvious resistance levels lurking overhead.
I had written about the US Dollar to finish last week, and if the USD is going to rally, it’s probably going to need some help from EUR/USD bears.
EUR/USD Shorter-Term Strategy
Sellers made a quick push at the start of this week’s trade but as noted above, they haven’t been able to make much of a mark yet. But – this does set up some additional lower-high context as last week’s stall around 1.1175 is inside of the prior high at 1.1200, which is inside of the 2023 high at 1.1275.
The 1.1140 level that I’ve been tracking in webinars is in-play as of this writing and there’s additional context for a possible lower-high up to prior short-term support, around 1.1155. If bears can defend that, the focus is on tests of deeper support. I’m tracking a Fibonacci level at 1.1081 that helped to bring the post-Fed bounce last week, and that’s followed by a swing at 1.1055.
After that is the 1.1000 level and that’s the price that was vigorously defended into and around the ECB’s rate cut.
Bears aren’t necessarily out of the woods on a first test below 1.1000, however, as the 1.09424 Fibonacci level could be a lead-in for bear trap potential on a bigger picture basis. That’s the 50% mark of the same Fibonacci retracement that set the high last year at the 61.8% (1.12697) and the low so far this year around the 38.2% (1.06152).
--- written by James Stanley, Senior Strategist