🏘 Housing Bubble v 2.0: What Does It Mean for US Stock MarketMuch to the chagrin of would-be homebuyers, property prices just keep rising. It seems nothing - not even the highest mortgage rates in nearly 23 years — can stop the continued climb of home prices.
Prices increased once again in July, according to the latest S&P CoreLogic Case-Shiller home price index , with 19 out of 20 markets measured showing month-over-month gains. In another reflection of ongoing increases, the National Association of Realtors (NAR) says more than half of U.S. metro areas registered home price gains in the second quarter of 2023.
So much for the idea that a "housing recession" would reverse some of the outsized price gains in homes. The U.S. housing market had finally started slowing in late 2022, and home prices seemed poised for a correction. But a strange thing happened on the way to the housing crash: Home values started rising again.
NAR reports that median sale prices of existing homes are near record highs. Home prices in August 2023 rose 3.9 percent year-0ver-year to reach $407,100 — near the all-time-high of $413,800, and only the fifth time any monthly median has eclipsed the $400,000 mark since NAR began keeping records.
The housing recession is essentially over, or has just began!?
Home values have held steady even as mortgage rates have soared past 7 percent, reaching their highest level in more than 20 years in August. The culprit is a lack of housing supply. Inventories remain frustratingly tight, with NAR’s August data showing only a 3.3-month supply.
30-Year Fixed Mortgage Interest Rates Turn Higher, as 200-Month SMA Key Resistance was broken earlier in 2022.
Average Annual Mortgage Interest. 30 000 U.S. Dollars Rubicon is at the hands.
After the Federal Reserve’s meeting in June, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell told reporters he was keeping a close eye on the housing market.
"Housing is very interest-sensitive, and it’s one of the first places that’s either helped by low rates or held back by higher rates," - Powell said in the press conference.
"We’re watching that situation carefully."
Housing economists and analysts agree, regardless, that any market correction is likely to be a modest one. No one expects price drops on the scale of the declines experienced during the Great Recession.
Is the housing and stock markets are going to crash?
The last time the U.S. housing market looked so frothy was back in 2000s. Back then, home values crashed with disastrous consequences. When the real estate bubble burst, the global economy plunged into the deepest downturn since the Great Depression. Now that the housing boom is threatened by skyrocketing mortgage rates and a potential recession so buyers and homeowners are asking a familiar question: Is the housing market about to crash?
5 reasons ("cast in bronze") there will be no housing market crash
1. Inventories are still very low.
2. Builders didn’t build quickly enough to meet demand.
3. Demographic trends are creating new buyers.
4. Lending standards remain strict and impose tough standards on borrowers.
5. Foreclosure activity is muted: In the years after the housing crash, millions of foreclosures flooded the housing market, depressing prices, and it’s nothing like it was two decades ago.
Funny, but all of that adds up to the one only consensus: Yes, home prices are still pushing the bounds of affordability. But "Ooh not", this boom shouldn’t end in bust. 😏
History does not repeat itself. But often rhymes.
Technical graph for ECONOMICS:USSFHP - U.S. Single Family Home Prices illustrates there has been a while, without new all time highs in Top Four U.S. Stock market indices while Housing Bubble was exist in 2000s.
So lets see, will be the same in 2020s or not, while 2023 is a second straight year without new all time peaks in S&P500 SP:SPX , in Nasdaq-100 NASDAQ:NDX , in Dow Jones Index AMEX:DJIA as well as in Russell 2000 Index TVC:RUT
TNX
Will $TNX catch up to shorter term yields?G-Morning!
Shorter term yields haven't moved much as of late.
Demand has slowed down & this coincides with the expectation that the #fed will be cutting rates soon.
The 2Yr #yield recently caught up with the strength of the shorter term #InterestRates & looks to be settling in the area just like the others.
On the other end the 10 Yr #yield has been pumping.
HAs been strong & hasn't been this overbought since Sept 22.
Many compare #InterestRates to GFC (Great Financial Crisis) but they were on their way DOWN vs now, they are on the way up!
Back then this was not much of an issue because #debt was SIGNIFICANTLY lower. Compared to Trillions now.
TVC:TNX
$DXY $TNX $VIX stronger than previous recent runsGoing 2b away today meeting with partners. This post might just be the only one today
TVC:DXY
This is a pretty strong trend.
TVC:TNX
That last move was stronger than previous, look at the RSI. 10Yr #yield.
TVC:VIX
This move was also with more strength than previous moves.
Conclusion:
Our call to end BULL run was spot on. Should've went BEAR, it's what we thought but didn't want to rush. However, we did say that risk was towards the DOWN.
$TX 10Yr has done well while short term yields stagnant, oh ohIt's important to keep and eye on the 10 & 2Yr yields.
The inverted #yield curve has huge prediction probability.
BUT
The strongest aspect of this is when it normalizes.
We're not far from that as the10yr has been pumping and the shorter time frames have been pretty stagnant. Now, there's 2 ways this happens.
Soft landing, economy slowly recovers
OR
Lower rates, usually = consequences
Guess which is the historical?
TVC:TNX
$TNX, 2Yr Yield, $DXY, $VIX analysisThe 10Yr - TVC:TNX and the 2Yr #yield have held pretty steady the last few days.
Won't be shocked if it doesn't do much until the DJ:DJI & TVC:NDQ , "coincidentally", break out of the patterns we've spoken about.
TVC:DXY losing a lil bit of steam. Is it topping again?
The only odd man out is the $VIX.
It's closer to the lower end of range. IMO this is just something to look at and not of much use until it is.
September will go out with a BANG!!!
One way or another!
$TNX has been pumping while short term yields fizzleGoing to bring this up AGAIN.
Short term #yields have been stagnant for some time now. Most are trading within a VERY TIGHT RANGE.
3Month - 1Year yield has been relatively flat.
The 2Yr had nice bump but is struggling to go over 5%.
HOWEVER, we pointed this out some time ago, the 10YR has BEEN PUMPING! TVC:TNX
Warren Buffet buying homebuilders after huge runsNot sure what NYSE:BRK.A NYSE:BRK.B is thinking, Warren Buffet.
Is he expecting a huge demand for NEW HOMES?
There was increase in demand after large drop.
Maybe thinking that the Fed reduces #interestrates after things begin to crack, more?
TVC:TNX has been pumping (10 Yr), no signs of weakness.
They've all had huge runs NYSE:DHI NYSE:NVR NYSE:LEN.B
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#RealEstate
$TNX higher now than when banks began to failEdited the graph from Apollo a bit.
Red arrow is when most treasury #yields were hitting new highs.
Blue arrow is current time. Chart is 2Yr #Bonds.
TVC:TNX was putting in a lower low at the Red arrow BUT it is higher then before at the moment, Blue arrow.
Graph shows how #bankruptcy filings began increasing late last year, slowed during #interestrates falling, but now increasing as rates have gone up again.
Bonds rolling over but what's up with $TNX?#Bond #yield has been moving well lately, but today. SO FAR, they're rolling over, and some hurting more than others.
We've mentioned that steam has been running out for some time. Look @ the RSI negative divergence on almost all of the #yields
6M weakening.
1Yr RSI CRATERING.
2YR hurting & RSI DECIMATED It is at major support.
TVC:TNX is the lone wolf. Must keep👀on this one to see how it plays out.
See data posted. Did the 10Yr peak already?
$TNX broke downtrend, rates likely keep goingLong ago we mentioned that #FederalReserve had decision to make.
They either chose the Economy or the Markets.
They CANNOT do both.
It's obvious, plus they keep repeating, with rate hikes where their mindset is.
Media states that Wall St thinks that #interestrate will be cut.
BUT
Looking @ short term rates, they look primed to go higher.
#bonds
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The 1Yr is moving very nicely.
BUT
The 2YR picked up a lot lately. It's closing in on the 1Yr.
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The 10Yr #yield is cranking & broke downtrend. #TNX
How much higher can things go before they break?
We've also mentioned that extreme #currency devaluation has bullish consequences
(many countries are an example of this)
Dilemma
EDIT:
We're still forming higher highs so market correction likely not there. This tends to happen once the inverted yield curve fixes itself.
2Yr Peak during great financial crisis was 5.28
10Yr Peak was 4.32
#GOLD #silver CRYPTOCAP:BTC
$TNX looks interesting on the Weekly ChartThe consensus is LOWER #interestrates
(I mean, they have been around 3.2ish)
Every time the 10Yr #yield was in this same situation it FOLDED.
Easier to see on daily.
However, something looks lil different this time around.
Can't make it out on the daily.
Let's see the weekly chart.
Hmmm...
Not yet, but gaining momentum...
If the 10 Yr yield starts pumping this could be good for $DXY.
Likely mean the inverse for precious metals like #Silver & #Gold.
#stocks #crypto
$TNX in range and a comparison of Yields around 2008#Yield is moving well today.
1Yr is bouncing back better than 2 and 10Yr.
$TNX is not bouncing as much but has not sold off as much as the others. The 10Yr is trading between 3.80 - 4.08.
Did we see the top in short term #yields a few days ago?
10Yr on the other hand did not break the most recent high. Interesting to say the least.
The last picture shows the highs of the 2 yr and 10 yr right before the crash of 2008.
Interesting that almost everything happened in the month of June. Even when it was 3 different years! Hmmm.
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Now let's compare what yields did around the 2008 crash.
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The 2yr yield peaked @ 5.28% and it did it much earlier. It was almost 2 years before the 10Yr yield did. The 2yr also formed a lower higher in 2007 (5.13%) & peaked in June 2008, much lower @ 3%, before the real crash happened.
The 10yr didn't peak until June 2008. way after short term rates peaked. We also see that the peak was around 4.3%.
Stocks peaked in Oct 07 and the lower high was May 2008.
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We are seeing something similar today. However, IMO everything happens faster today. We're keeping a close eye on lower highs in short term yields and we could be seeing this now. Time will tell.
This data is just like other data. Just past info to help weather the current & future storms.
Yields are mixed but all point higher, history repeating?🚨🚨🚨
Going to make a stink about #yield again.
Short term #interestrates have been creeping higher.
Let's👀@ #bond Yields.
6M = holding steady, trading slightly higher.
BUT,
1Yr = BROKE RECENT HIGHS. It's at resistance but shows momentum.
2Yr = Closing in on TSX:SVB closure high. This is where #banks began to break down.
10Yr TVC:TNX @ current downtrend is being tested. Break through is good.
HUH?
Higher = good short term for #stocks. Markets have a history of breaking AFTER rates begin to trade lower and yield curve normalizes. This can take a year or so.
Not saying markets will be pumping for a year. Just saying this is historical. We could be setting up for much more upside but with RISK.
We posted on the 2008 yield crisis some time ago.
Yields are beginning to push higher, not good for marketsYellow arrows show the #bank crisis.
Short term #yields are higher or at the same level.
They are showing signs of wanting to push higher again.
The 2Yr is lower & looks as if it's curling a bit higher.
The TVC:TNX or 10Yr is consistently lower & looks to be weakening.
Wall St may finally be listening to #Fed & more hikes coming.
1 & 2Yr Yields holding, $TNX & rest have been weakeningShort term #yield is still weakening
The 3M & 6M peaked not long ago & been going lower.
The 1Yr & 2Yr are holding area when the #banks began to fail.
The 10Yr peaked Oct 2022, last year.
TVC:TNX has been lower & looks 2b headed lower at the moment.
We'll see what the #FederalReserve does but Wall St thinks #fed is done with rates or @ CLOSE to the end of hikes
Yields are diverging from SHORT TERM $TNX6 Month is still pumping & more overbought.
This is the only one still moving higher atm.
Serious divergence!
1Y surpassed the #bank collapse highs .
2Yr Stopped 50bps away from highs.
10Yr forming lower highs (the top was put in LAST YEAR), down channel & the long trend has been broken.
Ten Year Notes (ZN) May Find Support SoonShort term Elliott Wave view in Ten Year Notes (ZN) suggests that cycle from 3.24.2023 high is in progress as an expanded flat. Down from 3.24.2023 high, wave ((A)) ended at 113’3 and wave ((B)) ended at 117 as the 45 minutes chart below shows. The Notes then extends lower in wave ((C)). Internal subdivision of wave ((C)) is unfolding as a 5 waves impulse Elliott Wave structure. Down from wave ((B)), wave 1 ended at 116’09 and wave 2 ended at 116’12. The Notes extends lower in wave 3 towards 115’13, and wave 4 rally ended at 115’29. Final leg wave 5 ended at 115’01 which completed wave (1). The Notes then corrected in wave (2) which ended at 116’16.
Internal subdivision of wave (2) unfolded as a zigzag Elliott Wave structure. Up from wave (1), wave A ended at 115’31 and pullback in wave B ended at 115’24. Wave C higher ended at 116’16 which completed wave (2). The Notes then extends lower in wave (3). Down from wave (2), wave 1 ended at 115’05 and rally in wave 2 ended at 115’18. The Notes then extends lower in wave 3 towards 113’04 and rally in wave 4 ended at 113’25. The Notes should soon end wave 5 of (3), then it should rally in wave (4) to correct cycle from 5.11.2023 high before it resumes lower. Near term, as far as pivot at 117 stays intact, expect rally to fail in 3, 7, or 11 swing for further downside. Potential target lower is 100% – 161.8% Fibonacci extension of wave ((A)). This area comes at 111’31 – 113’28 where buyers can appear for 3 waves rally at least.
6 Month Yield HIGHER than when banks collapsed!🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨 🚨
6 Month #yield is NOW HIGHER than when #silvergate #bank collapsed!
#interestrates can stay above 5% for extended periods of time, see charts, BUT the end result has NEVER been good for #stocks
1Yr struggles @ 5% but has been higher than 6%
HOWEVER
10Yr TVC:TNX is DIFFERENT! This has been on a long downtrend until 2022!
#bonds
2Yr & $TNX coming back hard & worrisome for #techLooking @ a few different #yields
(Not shown)Weekly 6month and 1Yr easier to notice BEAR FLAG & the pattern is close to being annulled.
Daily 2Yr looking good, breaking out of channel.
Hard to short dull market but seeing #bond yields climbing is worrisome for short term.
TVC:TNX 10Yr looks like 2Yr.