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Update on long duration bondsHello everybody! I wanted to make a quick update on where I think the 10y and 30y bonds will be headed in the next few months, as in the past, I've been talking quite a bit about deflation and a recession being close. We have seen TLT rise significantly, yet I think there is more upside. In the short term, I can see a further pullback, but in my honest opinion, the drop over the last two days was caused mainly by Pelosi visiting Taiwan and bonds getting overbought on lower timeframes. The 30y yields were rejected at the monthly pivot, while the 10y yields bounced at support and were denied at resistance. Yields are still in a short-term bearish trend, and there is no confirmation of a reversal yet, although the trend might have changed. It all depends on the situation between China and the US, as the more the tensions between those countries increase, the higher inflation will be, and therefore the higher rates will be. If China starts aggressively selling US bonds, this could create chaos in the funding markets. If the US starts banning Chinese imports or exports, the US bond market could explode, and yields go to the moon. This would force the Fed to step in and do unlimited QE / yield curve control. Essentially we are stuck in a scenario of mutually assured destruction here, and there is no way either one will come out as a winner in the short term. I believe that we are in a deflationary/disinflationary period, which could be disturbed at any moment if China invades Taiwan. The Russia/Ukraine war pushed inflation higher at a time when inflation was about to start slowing down, and a China/Taiwan war could push inflation higher at a time when inflation was about to slow down. TLT could quickly reach 125-135 in the next few months. However, I don't believe bond yields are going negative soon. It will be challenging for the market to have negative nominal yields when inflation is so high and at a time when the Fed might be forced to intervene and do YCC.
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by BitcoinMacro
US10Y-US02Y Yields Are Steepening NOWAhead of incredibly important CPI data to be released tomorrow, we are seeing yields steepen in a very dramatic fashion. In comparison to each of the last 3 inversions, this one is not even close to the past. It is important to understand that when yields steepen , it systematically leads to downside in the SPX/NASDAQ. It has been the indicator of almost every recession since 1980 . Now we can't jump to conclusions just yet, we can only try to anticipate what comes next. Tomorrow key CPI data gets released which is why markets are selling off in the face of it. This data will be the reason for the next move up or down. Focusing back on the chart, we can see just how far yields have deviated from the 200MA. In comparison to the past, this is the farthest divergence on record. IF yields were to retest that 200MA, it would almost certainly lead the markets down a very dark path rather quickly. We are seeing a clear momentum gain on the RSI to match this. Now let's take a look at the previous two inversions not shown in the chart; (2000, 2008) First, take note of where the 200MA is here in comparison to now. Second, notice when yields are Steepening the SPX is falling. They have an inverse correlation. Take a look at how extended the NASDAQ is still; The same can be said about the SPX; There are very significant moves being made in the markets at this moment, and it will take absolute diligence to ensure survivability if the markets take us down a dark path ahead. For now, pay attention to the data tomorrow. If it is optimistic, we could see some short-term relief. If it is worse than anticipated, watch CLOSELY! The projected CPI tomorrow is 8.4% . That's your best case going into tomorrow (April 12th) . Use it as a measure.
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by NoOneWhoIsSomeone
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US10Y-US02Y Time To Pay AttentionEveryone is talking about yields inverting and the recession that follows it. Here I am going to do a quick rundown on how to actually use this information to your advantage. It is not the yields INVERTING that is cause for concern. This is only the first step of a potentially long process. It is when yields start STEEPENING that there is real cause for concern. There is no question that yields inverting is a recession signal, it has historically proven itself to be since the 1970s. But if you think the market is ready for a recession right at this moment of inversion, you are misinformed. Pay close attention to when the yield first inverts, to where/when the market actually enters a recession. It is not until after yields STEEPEN is when there is real downside. Now, this brings us to the chart, where we are potentially seeing the first signs of steepening. Not only from the yields themselves but from the Bullish Divergence on the RSI. As yields have inverted (gone down), the RSI has trended up, showing a clear divergence. Also, notice how far yields have deviated from the 200MA. If you compare it to 2000, it is potentially showing a very similar picture Even in august of 2019 we see the same divergence which signaled yields to begin rising. Which told us it was really time to pay attention in the coming months. These are just a few insights to hopefully help you understand what this all means in the bigger picture. Right now more than ever is the time to pay attention and to stay vigilant. Hope this helps! Here is my initial analysis on yields tightening, as well as the Yield Inversion in relation to the SPX:
TVC:US10Y
by NoOneWhoIsSomeone
Yield Curve Inversion + S&P500 strong retractionsChart showing lead time between the curve inversion and the start of the stock market crashes along the time. Longest lead time was around 760 days (+2 years) Shortest lead time was 4-5 months. Consider a 6 months as a rule for your readiness: - Build up cash reserves. - Partial sells of variable income equities (stocks, crypto, etc). - From 4-6 months forward, start buying OTM SP500 options, specially when VIX is on support levels. (Bear Put Spreads are also a viable alternative). Start of the crash, what to do: - When SP500 has fallen around 20-30% from its peak, start buying variable income equities (stocks, crypto, etc). - Sell your OTM put options - ALWAYS KEEP SOME CASH RESERVE!
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by FernandoHilario
Visualizing Yield InversionWhen investors have a poor outlook for the economy, what do they do? They buy the longest term debt they can because it's one of the ways to price in the uncertainty of "right now" into the long term. Therefore, rational actors would do something like this: Buy 30 year treasuries. Buying ensues, yield goes down, price goes up. Eventually 20 year yield becomes greater than 30, as described in purple. Right now for example, you'd get about 3% more yield buying the 20 year VERSUS the 30 year (note: relative yield, not nominal yield), giving us a purple line of 0.968. The teal line (1.0) is where the relative yields are inverted if the price is below this line. Short term debt pays more than long term debt under this line, which is usually not the case and signals that things are awry. Now simply repeat this cycle until the rational short term outlook is priced into all irrationally priced long term treasuries. Prices are too low, therefore yields are too high, and rational actors begin buying them. Prices go up, yields go down. Next up, we have 20Y/10Y (red) at 1.235, which is intriguingly lagging behind the shorter term inversions of 10Y/5Y and 5Y/2Y. If anyone knows why, I would be interested to know! I'm not exactly an expert on debt. Eventually this cycle repeats until the ratio of short term yields are all very close to long term yields. These conditions always precede a recession, which, by the way, is NOT a well defined term. A recession simply describes "a general decline in economic activity". Not very scientific, is it? Economists utilize a wide range of data to attempt to foresee a recession, yet the outcome is inevitable and uncontrollable. As history shows, any attempt to control the economy and avoid recession (1930s, 1970s) often make things much worse than had policy makers simply let the storm pass initially. I like to use ratios of yields. Some people subtract the yield of one from the other, which is fine too. I think a ratioized signal is much more pure as ratios rule the world around us. Not only that, given that we're monitoring multiple relative yields, we can get a good overall picture of the current landscape. Unfortunately there's not much history for the longer term instruments, though as I believe the 30 year has been around for atleast 50 years but only has a few years of TradingView data. Hopefully the illustrations on this chart along with relative yields help you visualize some of what's happening. I keep this chart of relative yields up ALL the time in a tab! If you have any feedback or comments, I would appreciate it. Good luck and hedge your bets! Quick note: In March 2020 not only did the FED setup new centralized repo facilities directly (reverse repo, unprecedented, it's ILLEGAL by the way) and at the same time, engaged in "QE Infinity". In essence there's more avenues at which they are "forced" to buy things that nobody wants. Albeit, they buy it at about market price, assume that's the right price and that they are somehow protecting the economy by pricing in bankruptcy in one asset class and spreading it to the rest of the economy. Belligerent and thoughtless, what more could you want? At the same time, they've sucked a lot of excess cash out of the system once again by offering banks an interest rate of 0.05% for their cash in exchange for some FED junk assets. So suddenly banks are bagholding assets nobody wanted, in order to get interest on their cash, genius huh? OH yeah, and banks are SHORTING those assets on the open market! Effectively making the cash tend towards zero value (the real contract value of those assets which were originally exchanged). Next time something goes wrong, they will unload this ~1.5T diaper of dollars directly into our faces, probably sooner than later, causing more inflation.
TVC:US05Y
by fringe_chartist
Welcome to 2018 but way worseIt took less than a year for relative yields to do what took 5 years in the previous cycle. Last time it was gentle and made us fall asleep at the wheel. This time, it's forcefed down our throat and the economy will be dragged down by these companies who have made harmful malinvestiments for years with no recourse. Look at half the companies on the Russell with no profits, for example, and how "well" the index has done while they roll around in fresh fake money.
TVC:US10YShort
by fringe_chartist
One of the Most Important Charts You Will Ever SeeThe bond market often has an inverse relationship with the stock market since it is considered a 'risk off' asset. Bonds generally yield more interest for longer maturities. For example, a bond investor in a healthy economy would expect a greater yield for a 10 year treasury compared to a shorter duration. However, the yield curve can 'invert' (shorter term bond actually pays greater interest) when bond traders believe a recession is imminent. Since the Fed's reaction to a recession is to drop short-term rates to 0% and recessions cause 'risk on' assets like stocks to drop, the smart money will rotate from higher risk stocks (like tech, since it's future cash flows are highly sensitive to the cost of capital) and hide out in bonds to weather the storm and minimize downside risk. Yield inversion info: www.investopedia.com This chart shows the interest spread between 10 and 2 year treasuries in blue. Shaded vertical boxes show where the yield curve inverted in the past. The S&P is in red (at least I think it's red. I am color blind). Note how the shaded boxes start just prior to the dot.com peak, the GFC peak, and even the Covid recession. Currently the interest spread is heading back towards zero as the Fed is set to hike short-term rates to combat inflation, likely beginning in March. At it's current drop rate, the spread will invert in ~Q4 of this year, which means a recession is on the table for the first half of 2023. Keep checking back for updates as I will be watching this one VERY closely.
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by HypnoticStrix
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Black Swan - Risk Parity EventIdea for Bonds: - US05Y and US02Y printed immense spikes in the pre-market. Glitch? Probably not. Bond market in general is having extreme events globally, US markets not immune. - Not shown on TV, but HYG also printed -7% in the AH on Friday... and traded there for several minutes. - Dollar is unstoppable with global shortage. Pension funds have elected to use leverage to meet a 5.5 trillion dollar liability gap. I'm betting they will not succeed. In the context of everything, more likely it is a dark pool trade and people are running for the exits. GLHF - DPT
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by UnknownUnicorn1043646
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My Forecasts: PostscriptLet me say this from the outset; within the 2's5's curve is a manual, given that I do not have a great deal of time, it is not possible for me to go into great dimensions or detail I have chosen. Instead we will have to content ourselves with the revolutionary charts/diagrams both before and of the period where I have gone into more details. The same is true of the other important charts (VIX and Unemployment Claims) I refer to below. So now that we are all prepared and understand the knowledge, we must start to turn the dusty pages. Firstly lets review a chart on which I stack tremendous value: I would not wish to enter into conspiracies. There have been a handful of inversions in the manuscripts over the past three decades which all speak historical truth in advance of the crisis. The advance in the 5 year suggests salvation from the Fed can only come in the medium term as the 2 year lags behind. And now to the point around Alpha Protocol Seeking Immediate Extraction . The 2's5's is already under the nature in an impulsive form. The prior three inversions (Housing and Credit, Dot com, GFC) also suffered from a lagging Fed, that of being at least 10-12 months behind! This means that it is not uninteresting to highlight the totally overlooked inversion in 2019, it was a loud SOS signal that the economy was clearly running out of steam. I was the one who was able to properly understand that manoeuvre in both Unemployment Claims and Vix ahead of time, calling the move from 12 to 85; with complex inversions, always look to play against the crowd. See our opening in US Claims and VIX before the fact: Given we are facing both inflation via contractions in globalisation and deflation via advancements in technology etc all at the same time, it is causing a major paradox/dissonance across the board. It would serve no purpose to mention or not hint at what will happen next; my personal sense is that because the Fed ALWAYS lags behind, we will see another example of the long end of the curve driving the flows ( for those interested in bull steepening and bear flattening I have also omitted the exclamations in bold ). This would suggest that it is likely that we could be heading into an environment where you see nominal yields receiving a booster shot while real yields flatten causing further pressure on USD.
TVC:US05YLong
by ridethepig
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..an attempt to showcase the flatteningFlattening for the close. Getting a couple of questions re; flattening after the hints in previous idea, for those following 10s30s you will notice the test of 55/54bps is underway. ↳ The latest breakdown is implying we are at the minimum here in an ABC expectation leg towards support ↳ Inflation readings will be key to drive this one, this is signalling a dangerous environment for equities and risk in general going into September. ↳ To the other side, buyers will need to break through 11th May highs to call for reassessment in the flattening view.
TVC:US30YShort
by ridethepig
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ridethepig | US10Y testing resistanceA timely update to the US10Y Yields chart as we approach key areas. The 1.35% pivot level in the very short term is our line in the sand and will define which battlefield we will play Q3 on. ↳ The waterfall lows from 2020 started the next five wave impulsive sequence to the topside, it will take years for the moves to unfold but critical to understand our long term direction (higher yields). ↳ Typically we will see ebb and flow, particularly in summer months. Now with 1.35% & 1.45% the key resistance areas defined and ready to monitor, all we need to track is for a sustained breach above as will imply buyers are in control and demand reassessment in the view that a base is already in . ↳ Here actively tracking for one more leg lower towards 1.00%, it should be enough to unlock the pressure valve in USD one more time before we see the next leg lower in global equity markets in October (more on this over the coming weeks). [/chart
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by ridethepig
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Macro - Reading The CurveForecast for Macro: - Falling Wedge Breakout must be re-tested. - Bear Flattener coming as short-term rates rise with Fed tightening expectations: - 2x ATR spike in US02Y: - The Fed members will probably all have their turn to make comments, leaning hawkish. This should cause a rally in the US02Y. - Bonds Volatility Technically Bullish: - However, this will be followed by a steepener, respecting the Falling Wedge Breakout, as the Fed implements monetary policies to control Deflation, creating a Stagflation environment. - US30Y, this is bearish and deflationary: - USOIL, deflationary. The US economy depends on Oil: - US Manufacturing Employment Index, looks to be at the top of the range, and on a decline: - Capital goods are the heart of every economy. Without manufacturing employment, no capital goods. No capital goods, no innovation. - CN30Y, also bearish and deflationary: - China's Credit Impulse, and consequently - global credit impulse turns negative. - No more credit flows means no more liquidity to flow into risk assets. - M2V declining, if the economy was booming and growing, money velocity should be increasing: - Business destruction cannot be inflationary. Thriving tech businesses lead the recovery, but Tech is inherently deflationary. - Reading the curve will be critical to see the macro turns coming! GLHF - DPT
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by UnknownUnicorn1043646
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US10Y - Strategy WeeklyA couple of things to note here as the chart clearly shows the attempt of a break on the log-chart. We now know Sellers are attempting the strategical and important pin on their opponent. It is clear the inflation trade is deteriorating, and in the most profound sense looks rather like a deeper mission that is underway. On the technical side, the next levels in play with a break on the chart here are at 1.00% and 0.50%. The next charts is clearer as to what we were tracking, firstly the US10Y has completed the full retrace back towards 1.5%/1.75%, and secondly, a lot of unwinding has begun in Commodities and Cyclicals as Oil retreats from the key 75 resistance. With a break in the log-chart, these larger areas of the chart are now rendered useful for freer manoeuvring and can trigger a sharp uptick in volatility for those who are becoming quite rigid. We need to keep an eye on the state of affairs in inflation and wages in particular, although when looking at the headings cooking for the US via fiscal tightening and etc, it looks like the inflation trade as a lot further to unwind yet.
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by ridethepig
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Game, Set and Match!📌 ridethepig | Game, Set and Match! In order to inform ourselves about the dangers of this move, we shall in what follows point to a few live charts which we called live together from 2019 that the 2s5s was going to invert frantically , and was a bad sign. It enables occupation of the dominos, which for those following long enough will know the one thing we always through individually is our playbook . 1️⃣ Every other time this happened it ended badly for the global economy via recession. ✅ 2️⃣ A Fed that lags and finances the Whitehouse will only add fuel to the flames... "it's different this time". ✅ 3️⃣ The longer the delay in USD devaluation from Fed, the worst the blow is going to be in Equity markets. Assuming USD does not devalue materially into 2020 its repo will grow and continue expanding the balance sheet , one way or another eventually this is going to look like Fed has been financing the WhiteHouse and then the game is up. ✅ ✅ Powell's noble attempt to pick a fight with the end game in an economic cycle can be regarded as having come to nothing. The threat comes from confidence and credit . Aiming for a complete annihilation across risk assets later in 2021, the presence of the inversion was sufficient. Now this move is being made with momentum. Game Set ... & Match The simplest example is to explain the move with diagrams which was the wish here. To occupy a piece of tradingview real estate with a live walk through in the end of an economic cycle. This could be considered as a momentum move in the sense of the word. The rule is: I’m long vol for a very long time. Insane risks are palatable but you need to understand the game otherwise you have a very high likelihood of total destruction. Stay long vol short dollars. We are entering into a series of exchanges between public and private assets, the door is closing, like in the Star Wars movie when Chewy and Harrison Ford are running to the doors, we can see the door closing in China, and in Russia and yet we still have a chance to get out. An exchange towards a decentralised world is possibly into 2032.
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by ridethepig
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A Macro Thread on YieldsThe bond market can be quite tricky. In terms of yield curves consider the following: Bear steepening Bull Steepening Bear Flattening Bull Flattening > Steepening (the premium for longer debt is growing) > Flattening (the premium is shrinking) For example, bull steepening, which is exactly what we have been doing this since the start of this year: The short-end of the yield curve (typically driven via fed funds rate) falls faster than the long-end, steepening the yield curve. The long end of the yield curve is driven by a wide range of factors, including - economic growth, expectations, inflation expectations, and supply and demand of longer-maturity Treasury securities and etc 📍 A bull steepener ↳ is a shift in the yield curve caused by falling interest rates - rising bond price - hence the term “bull”. 📍 A bull flattener ↳ is the opposite of a steepener - a situation of rising bond prices which causes the long-end to fall faster than the short-end. 📍 Bear steepness and flatteners ↳ are caused by falling bond prices across the curve A bull steepener is a change in the yield curve caused by short-term interest rates falling faster than long-term rates, resulting in higher spread between the two rates. A bull steepener occurs when the Fed reserve is expected to lower interest rates. This expectation causes consumers and investors to become optimistic about the economy and bullish about prices in the stock market above the short-term. Thanks as usual for keeping the feedback coming 👍 or 👎
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by ridethepig
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