1/7/25 - $pton - Ambiguous at $9, 2025 R/R poor1/7/25 :: VROCKSTAR :: NASDAQ:PTON
Ambiguous at $9, 2025 R/R poor
- have followed this yoga pants-wearing, starbucks guzzling, taylor swift blastin' name for some time
- first, the balance sheet/ net debt levels require some obvious cash flow generation to be neutralized... especially after a 2.5-3x move from floor
- on one hand the marginal change in sales (from -ve to +ve, probably in 4Q) is already baked in the calorie-free, guilt-free cake.
- and EBITDA mgn already forecasted at DD for this year and next, with not much expansion on the top line (which will at this stage take at LEAST 2-3 Q's - probably more - to get visibility on and materially alter real mkt consensus).
- so even if i assume 200 mm in 2026 fcf (another 20% bump to already likely bullish #s, i can only get to mid 3's - and for a lot of risk on a stretched out maxed out dopamine busted consumer). "yes" their B2B biz is awesome - top of the line - i love it. i do think mgmt gets a B+ all in...
- but friends don't let friends buy high teens EBITDA multiples for low DD's EBITDA growth on tough balance sheets, a name that's already worked (just don't chase it!) and a not-need-to-own name. if u like consumer discretionary just own NYSE:YETI , which is hard enough to own in this environment, but such a low-key sleep-at-night no bears in yo food middle of the night name).
as you can tell it's late. i'm reviewing some oldies i've never written up. maybe a bit more wit. excuse the hyperbole (i'm not restricted in terms of my investment committee anymore so i let it rip these days).
be well <3
V