are we repeating 1987 and going to 4000 on S&P?Though the correction and market reaction was expected for macro economic conditions, did not anticipate such severe and sharper decline. This doesn't mimic regualr circumstances like healthy and organic correction, rather it mimic covid and 1987 flash crash.
I started to feel now we may repeat 1987 thus may see more downtrend next week or two and slowly world comes to adjust to new conditions and prepare. This could be slow recovery thereafter hardly touching 5100 on S&P by Christmas
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401(k)s: A Safe Bet or a Rigged Game?In 2008, the S&P 500 dropped 57% at its lowest, wiping out decades of savings for millions of Americans. People who were 5–10 years from retirement lost everything overnight—and they had no way out.
And here’s the problem:
• 401(k)s are heavily stock-weighted, especially those “target-date” funds that adjust based on age—but not fast enough in a crash.
• No active protection. These funds don’t hedge, use stop-losses, or rotate into cash. If the market dumps, you’re just riding it down.
• No control or transparency. Most people don’t even know what they’re invested in unless they dig deep into fund holdings.
It’s no coincidence that the same Wall Street firms managing 401(k)s make money shorting crashes or getting bailouts, while regular people are told to “just wait it out.” Sure, that might work over decades, but what if you’re close to retirement? Or just don’t want to wait 10 years for a recovery?
The Harsh Reality
• 401(k)s aren’t really optional. They’re the main retirement plan in the U.S., so most people are forced into them with few alternatives.
• Most people don’t actively manage them. They pick a default option, get put into a target-date fund, and hope for the best. That’s where the “sheep” feeling comes in.
• You can’t easily exit. There are penalties for withdrawing early, so in a crash, you’re locked in like a prisoner or financial refugee, while the “big boys” cash out first.
It’s not a scam in a legal sense—but it is a system that favors the knowledgeable and punishes the passive. Those who don’t study markets, adjust their portfolios, or take active control end up paying the price. And sadly, that’s the majority.
S&P500 target 4550The markets are spooked by the recent Trump Administration Tariff's. Such political mayhem harks back to the Smoot Hawley Tariffs of 1930 , when Protectionism plummeted the world into chaos.
Fear and Panic has gripped investors. The last week has seen a rapid decline of this index, with the market falling over 5% in the recent trading session. To date the market is down 17.5 percent from the high of 6147. It is likely we will pass into Bear Market territory in the coming week.
From a technical perspective , last week was the largest bear candle in the last 5 years and the RSI has moved into the oversold zone.
If we look to the last Bear Market of 2022, the 200 Week MAV acted as support. This may be an area again, where the market forms a low. This would coincide with a 70.5 percentile Fibonacci retracement.
So 4550 is the updated target for the current move down.
S&P 500 Breakdown: 4,790 Worst-Case Scenario in Play?Last week, I warned in this post that if sentiment worsened, the S&P 500 could head toward 4,790 as a worst-case scenario. Fast forward to today, and the index has officially lost the 5,149 support level, opening the door for further downside.
What Just Happened?
📉 Key Support Broken: The market just lost 5,149 (1.0 Fib retracement), which was a major line in the sand.
📉 Momentum Still Bearish: With no strong bounce, sellers remain in control, making 4,790 - 4,800 the next major target.
📉 Next Supports:
4,800 zone: A critical psychological level and my worst-case scenario target.
4,761 (1.618 Fib): A key confluence area for a potential bounce.
If the S&P 500 fails to reclaim 5,149 quickly, then the next downside targets are:
4,800 – A major area I highlighted last week.
4,761 – Aligns with the 1.618 Fib extension, adding confluence.
What Needs to Happen for a Rebound?
For bulls to take back control, the index must reclaim at least 5,149, or risk continued selling. A failed bounce could accelerate the move lower.
🚨 I called 4,790 as a worst-case target last week.
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Trump 's US Stock is seeking a inverted Symmetry Trend to Biden's stock graph.
But For Worst case,
SPX may flung to Gap filling till $ 4200.
Yesterday, China released its anti-US Tariff policy.
If Europe add a new hostile anti-US Tariff policy,
The Great Recession will start.
Don't buy the dip.
Just sleep till Trump's surrender.
S&P 500 to 7000+ Full analysis of current levelsI don't make a lot of videos but I thought this idea warranted one so I could share the detail. First of all, I'd like your feedback - what else do you see? what did I miss? Let me know.
Key points from this video:
We are coming up on the COVID lower trendline
We are currently sitting on a key level that has a confluence of 50% retrace on downward channel
The 61.8 retrace is in confluence with a number of key items: The COVID Trendline, Volume Profile, 2022 high, and current channel
Momentum is also supportive of a pivot
So, what do you think?
Bitcoin Breaks Free from the S&P 500: The Start of a New EraWe may be witnessing a historic moment in the evolution of Bitcoin. On April 3rd, 2025 at 15:00 UTC, Bitcoin officially broke its correlation with the S&P 500 a connection that had persisted for years.
Since that moment, the divergence has become clear:
• The S&P 500 has continued its sharp decline, now down over 7%, amid rising macroeconomic uncertainty and trade tensions.
• Meanwhile, Bitcoin has held strong, even climbing up to 4%, and has now entered a period of sideways consolidation rather than following the broader market into panic.
As of April 4th, 2025 at 20:00 UTC, this trend is holding and it might just signal the start of a new era for digital assets.
📉 A Shift in Market Psychology
Historically, BTC has mirrored traditional markets, especially during moments of fear. But this time is different. Bitcoin is resisting the gravitational pull of global financial weakness.
This could mean that investors are starting to see Bitcoin not as a high-risk tech bet, but as a legitimate hedge against global instability a digital store of value.
🔍 Why It Makes Sense
• 🌐 Borderless: Bitcoin is not tied to any single economy or government.
• 🏛️ Decentralized: No central authority can manipulate its supply.
• 💎 Scarce and predictable: With a fixed max supply of 21 million, Bitcoin offers transparency and reliability.
In a world of rising protectionism and financial tension, Bitcoin offers what traditional systems can’t: a neutral, incorruptible asset available to anyone, anywhere.
🔮 What’s Next?
If the decoupling continues, we could see:
• 📈 Capital shifting into Bitcoin for protection, not just speculation.
• 🚀 A new wave of adoption, as institutions and individuals look for safe havens.
• 🔁 Altcoin markets gaining momentum, once confidence trickles down from Bitcoin's stability.
🧠 Final Thoughts
This moment could be a turning point. While traditional markets falter, Bitcoin holds firm. While governments talk tariffs and trade wars, Bitcoin offers freedom.
If this trend continues, it may redefine the role of Bitcoin in the global economy — not just as a volatile asset, but as a truly global store of value and pillar of financial independence.
S&P 500 (US500) Bearish Wave Setup | VSA + Elliott Wave + Multi-1. Elliott Wave Structure
Price seems to be in wave (4) of a 5-wave drop. A final move down (wave (5)) is expected toward the 4,460–4,340 zone, which lines up with Fibonacci targets and a strong support area.
2. Volume Spread Analysis (VSA)
Several VSA signals like No Demand, Supply, and Professional Selling appeared on the chart. These point to weak buying pressure and strong selling interest.
3. Multi-Timeframe Channel Zones
Price rejected from the top of long-term (12M) channels and is now dropping toward lower channel zones on multiple timeframes (6M, 3M, 1M).
4. Trade Plan
Short trades are in play with clean stop loss and take profit targets. The setup aims for the 4,460–4,340 support area as the main target zone.
Summary
This setup combines:
Elliott Wave theory
Volume analysis
Multi-timeframe price channels
All pointing to a likely move lower. Let's see how it plays out!
S&P outlook. i think we're currently mid 1987 crash. lines up with a peak fear april 9th and may 27th cut date ( give or take )
literally zero to fear.
jpm collar is 4480.
they're crushing this because of the speed of the trade. they dont wanna fully break the economy. they just wanna liquidate some degens and buy the dip.
learn to love it mane.
this also means small caps rally HARD from may on if this plays out.
should be a BLAST to play this admin if small caps goes on a genny run while the S&p takes a grind and go approach.
bullish on AMEX:MIDU AMEX:TNA AMEX:IWM TVC:RUT SP:MID CRYPTOCAP:BTC CRYPTOCAP:SOL SEED_WANDERIN_JIMZIP900:WIF
Retracement complete?This is absolutely beautiful. Rode some of the move down (should have stayed in longer!) but I think potentially the downward technical move may be approaching an end, at least near term.
Long term, if the fundamental issue of tariffs and recession risk does not subside, we may see much lower levels given that we hit the upper end of a trendline that goes from 2000 and 2008 highs. I have more thoughts on this, but will revisit and do an update on the plot a month from now.
S&P 500 to tank to 5,100 pointsPEPPERSTONE:US500
The S&P 500 broke below critical support after Trump announce massive tariffs on everyone, worst than expected. Volume is increasing to the downside, and it looks like the next wave down has already started.
Wave C is supposed to be equal or larger than wave A, and reach the next critical support, which will lead us to 5,100 points in the next couple of weeks.
I heard that net tariffs on China are 54%, does than means that iPhones are going to rise in price 54%?
Maybe it will be reconsidered later, and the market will bounce in the future, but not likely in the short term.
Good luck to you
SPX short term VP analysisI have done a short term volume profile analysis with support and resistance levels. Market is at long term trendline as well. I Expect a small bounce and some grinding for a week or so fighting the long term trendline.
Personally I think it will crash through the trendline after a week of grinding, but will watch closely and make short term trades
Liberation or Obliteration?Notice the pattern here, the last time we had a fed pivot the market went up for a couple of months and then a huge draw down. History doesn’t always repeat but it often rhymes. We are being held up by the 0.382 Fib, so we are technically still bullish believe it or now.
What’s next? If the tariff issues are not resolved we will get a total melt down, the likes of which we haven’t seen before.
So if you are hopeful that the tariffs will be resolved, this is an excellent opportunity to buy the dip. I was largely long gold but I have not almost exited my position, please look at my trade idea on gold which was a textbook long.
Now I’m putting that cash to work and slowly buying up the best assets the market has to offer. I will add to my long term investment in the AI companies, data center and top class software names. But I’m not going all in, I’m reserving dry powder for more draw downs. For now this technical analysis suggests now is the time to be slowly deploying.
Not financial advice, do what’s best for you.
Two ideas.With the recent price fall, it gives us two Elliott waves ideas.
An ending diagonal, which should take the price down to the $4800/ $4500 level, in a Wave 4. Then a muted Wave 5, which would complete the big wave pattern.
Or this drop is a C wave in an expanding flat pattern. This is a dramatic pattern, which should take the price down to the $3650- $3227 range, and very quickly, before the bull market continues.
Trump’s Triumph or Tragedy?Introduction
The S&P 500 recently faced a sharp decline, with many rushing to blame renewed trade war tensions under President Trump's second term. But is this downturn truly a political reaction — or was it already baked into the market’s DNA?
A deeper dive using Elliott Wave Theory suggests something far more structural: the recent fall is part of a broader wave pattern, and the real crash hasn’t even begun.
A Look Back: How the Market Reacted to Tariffs in Trump's First Term
During Trump’s first presidency:
First Tariff Hike caused an 11.77% drop
Second Tariff Hike led to an 8.35% decline
China’s reaction triggered a 20% fall
Despite this turbulence, the market rebounded sharply, climbing 44% post-trade war — forming a textbook Wave 5 extension.
This historical context is crucial: event-based declines often align with technical wave structures, not random panic.
Why the Market Fell Now (and Not Earlier)
Trump’s second term victory wasn’t unexpected. Neither was his return to tariff-heavy policies.
So why didn’t the market react earlier?
📉 Because this isn’t about tariffs. It’s about Wave 4.
The current market downturn coincides with the natural Wave 4 correction of a multi-decade Elliott Wave cycle. This phase is often sharp and emotional — yet incomplete. The final Wave 5 rally is still ahead, possibly pushing the index to new highs above 7,000.
The Calm Before the Storm: What Comes After Wave 5
Following the euphoric rally of Wave 5, the market is expected to face a massive correction — Wave II — projected to be as severe as the 2008-09 financial crisis, if not worse.
Potential triggers:
Overleveraged markets
Global debt bubbles
Geopolitical instability
Inflation shockwaves
AI and tech overvaluation
Conclusion: Trump’s Triumph or Tragedy?
This wave analysis raises the question: will Trump’s second term be remembered for a market rally or a devastating crash?
The answer may be both.
✅ Short-term triumph via Wave 5
⚠️ Long-term tragedy via Wave II
The smart investor will ride the wave — but also prepare for the fall.
Key Takeaways:
Current decline = Wave 4, not the final crash
Wave 5 (upside) may still take S&P to new highs
Post-Wave 5 = Major correction, possibly like 2008
Trump’s tariffs are catalysts, but not the root cause
Technical patterns > political events in long-term moves
Absolute craziness ! SP500 retesting 6k and SHORTHello fellow traders
This idea is mainly based on an assumption this craziness can't go any longer! Look at RSI, the divergency overheated level tested, price channel?? Early recession signs, AI bubble, etc
Please protect your capital, have a SL which won't cause you sleepless nights :D
This is just an idea not a trading advise! Good luck anyone who's with me
Markets hate tariffs but traders love discounts
SPX500 is down over 12.2% YTD
Volatility Index (VIX) is above 40 — elevated fear in the market
SPX support zone likely around 4,888
Historical patterns show strong rebounds near similar volatility spikes
This could be a prime entry point — keep your cash ready
With tariffs back in play, volatility could spike — stay ready for discounted entries